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blau 04-25-2001 07:38 PM

I just had my wheel aligned because it was drifting to the right. I am not sure they realy solved the problem.

The problem now is that the stearing wheel is off center now. That is I have to have the stearing wheel turned slightly to the right to have it going straight. I don't know if it still drift to the right.

Is there a way they they could adjust without reduing the alignment.

ben

ejsharp 04-25-2001 10:41 PM

I had a drift problem also... the steering wheel was always off center. The problem was rear end alignment not front end alignment. The rubber grommets of a suspension arm were shot.

Replaced the arms (right side and left side of car) and the steering wheel is straight again and the car no longer pulls to either side.

Machnumber2 04-26-2001 12:59 PM

I just had a Geo Storm aligned, they said that the alignment was perfect, but that someone had taken the steering wheel off and had put in on offset before I owned the car. The took off the steering wheel and put it on correctly.This may or may not be your problem

G-Benz 04-26-2001 03:09 PM

I agree that the real alignment is probably at fault. Correcting the front end has now exposed alignment problems with the rear end.

Alignments don't require the removal of the steering wheel, so I doubt that the wheel is off-center.

However, if the steering wheel was removed and installed incorrectly, then the steering wheel can be removed and reset to the correct position. The steering wheel is attached by a large nut, and the steering shaft is splined. The number of teeth on the splined shaft allows you an (almost) infinite positions to set your steering wheel.

I have done this succesfully on some former vehicles I've owned (when changing to a custom steering wheel), but I don't know anything about the proper removal of the SRS unit mounted on the wheel. Best left to a professional.



Hope this helps...

Q 04-26-2001 03:17 PM

An alignment shop will center the steering wheel by shortening one tie rod and lengthening the opposite side, not by removing the steering wheel.

stevebfl 04-26-2001 05:54 PM

To see if your steering wheel has been turned during its life, remove the ignition key and turn the steering wheel til it locks. It should lock only in the straight ahead position.

The steering wheel can be recentered by the vernier method.

ejsharp 04-27-2001 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G-Benz
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Alignments don't require the removal of the steering wheel, so I doubt that the wheel is off-center.


If the steering wheel was not straight when the front end was aligned then the steering wheel will always be off center when the car is going straight ahead.

Jim Anderson 04-27-2001 11:41 AM

I think the answer is no, the alignment needs to be redone starting with the steering wheel. The shop may have done only what you asked them, align the wheels. Specifically mention steering wheel centering.

blau 04-27-2001 11:45 AM

Thanks for the info.
 
I looked in the paper works from the dealer. It said that they aligned the front end to factury spec. I don't know why they did not do a 4 wheel alignment.

They also balance and rotated my tires. But, I don't think it changed anything. Interms of drifting to the right. This was all done under warrentee.

The stearing wheel is slightly off center. After carefuly observing it this moring driving it to work. It want to return to the center position that is when it will drift to the right. But, that could be because of the road banking to the right.

I, don't know you guys. I almost feel guity taking it in again, to have them check the alignment in the rear. But, I will always be restless unless, I am convince that all the alignment is check out. What do you guys think?

Frustrated

Jim Anderson 04-27-2001 12:17 PM

Mine did the same thing, except to the left. I brought it back to the shop and they re-did it, no questions asked.

blau 04-27-2001 12:59 PM

Jim what happen to yours Mercedes?
 
Jim just want to know how to talk to the dealer. So what hapen to yoru mercedes. Did it pull the the left and they align the front? When you took it back and they align the rear?

Was there something wrong with the rear alignment? Did that solved the probelm?

how did centering the stearing wheel worked into it.


Thanks
ben

Jim Anderson 04-27-2001 02:01 PM

I've got a 1991 190e so being off warrenty I tend to avoid the dealer. I was recommended to a local frame and alignment shop by the local work motor head (former NASCAR mechanic) after I noticed uneven front tire wear and was tired of a slight pull. They took it for a test drive on surface streets and aligned it. They did at first start with the steering wheel but in the process of doing he wheels it moved (I was watching). I didn't think much of it, they are the experts, but when I took it on the freeway it did pull to the left and the steering wheel was off center. I took it back a couple of days later and they mentioned on a re-test it wasn't quite right and re-did it and its now ok. They didn't do anything about the back, but the problems were with the front and solved with just a front alignment. They did mention something about one parameter was set to pull the car slightly to the left so it would go straight over the normal arc of a road. I did ask them specifically about steering wheel being straight and they said the alignment process does start with the steering wheel and the tires aligned to it and each other.

blau 04-27-2001 02:25 PM

Very intersting, set to pull to the left.
 
Thanks Jim for your reply.

Very interesting!!!


Your mechanic said it was set to the left so it would go straight because of the arc of the road.


Maybe this is a question for the alignment experts out there. Is it normal pratice or acceptable pratice to align the car to pull slightly to the left to compensate for the fact that most road are banked to the right.

Because I am starting to think that on my mercedes, it drift to the right most of the time because the roads are arc to the right most of the time. I notice on my ML that it is very sensitive to road banking on the right and left.


public enemy 04-27-2001 04:10 PM

Mercedes is a difficult car to align and requires considerable expertise and experience. I took mine to two different places to have it aligned and they both ripped me off. The steering wheel was not centered and the car was still pulling to the right. I was avoiding to take it to the dealer because the dealer was charging $100 to align it. The shops were way cheaper. So, I ended up wasting $50 at each shop which adds up to the same $100, and the job was still not done. Eventually I took it to the dealer and paid the $100 and the car has been fine ever since. The steering is now centered and the car does not pull to the right anymore. If I only had gone to the dealer from the beginning I would have saved myself all the hassle and the time as well as $100. Live and learn!!

blau 04-27-2001 04:37 PM

thanks public enemy>
 
Thanks publidc enemy. I did take it to the dealer. They said they align it and it seem like they did. From the wrentch marches on the tire rode nuts but it still drifts to the right.

Did they have to aligh the rear on yours.

ben


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