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Old 11-20-2006, 03:54 PM
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Emissions Test - What causes increase of HC?

The car: 1994 C280 with 95,000 miles.

I just did my emissions certification on the car, as we have to do every two years. I passed, but when I compared the results to the test from two years ago, my HC ppm had increased dramatically. I had 17 ppm at idle and 33 ppm at 25 mph (I'm allowed up to 55 before I fail). Two years ago it was 0 and 0. What could cause such a large increase in HC? I brought the car into the test hot, having done a 20 mile run up the highway to heat it up for the test. I have a failed air pump, but as the car was started hot (it was on the test apparatus within 5 minutes of arriving) I don't think that has anything to do with it. I also intermittently get a code for a failed purge valve, but I just clean it out with Arthur Dalton's trick when I get the code.

Any ideas? If I increase the same amount in two years, I'll fail then. The plugs have less than 7,000 miles on them, as do the plug wires/boots and the MAF.

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Old 11-20-2006, 04:48 PM
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when did you last change the oil?
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The simple answer?
1. Ignition related items ( plugs, etc. )
2. oil consumption ( minute amounts ).
3. Catalytic converter degrading.
Remember you're reading parts per million.
Just because your numbers are up from 2 years ago does NOT mean they will continue to climb.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:39 PM
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What grade of fuel have you been using?
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:08 PM
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David: the oil is changed religiously every three months, which amounts to about 1500 miles per oil change.

Manny: I refreshed all the ignition related items a little over a year ago, which amounts to about 7000 miles (plugs, wires and the three plungers below the coils). The car doesn't use any measurable amount of oil between oil changes. I hope that doesn't mean a catalytic converter, but with my luck it probably will. Its always the most expensive thing.

Rick: Premium fuel only, 91 Octane.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:58 PM
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You worry too much.
If the car was tested again tomorrow, your HC's could be down ( or up ) 10, 20, 30 ppm.
How do I know,........I test exhaust emissions every day ( with my own 5-gas analyzer).
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:54 PM
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Is there any chance it could be the O2 sensor(s) "getting old"?

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Old 11-21-2006, 01:51 PM
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Temperature of system?

We have a 97 C280 with the inline 6, which have gone through several emission tests.
My experience is:
Cold -when I drove the car short trip (say, 10km) to test the HC was high.
Warm - when I drove it longer say 30km on highway to test the HC was always very low.
I believe the catalytic converter needs to warm up to perform well.



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failed test

I failed my inspection test,because my HC is reading 119 and HO% is reading 0.83, what can i do to fix that?
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Year & model of car would help.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:46 PM
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failed test

its a c280 mercedes 1995
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Lots of questions:
1. What are your limits for HC and CO ?
2. When was the last time you did a really good tune-up?
3. Do you have a " Check Engine " light on ?
4. Has the Oxygen sensor ever been replaced ?
5. How is your fuel economy ?
6. How does the vehicle generally drive ?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:59 PM
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1)none of the light are lighted up,
2)1 and a half year ago
3)no its not
4)No
5)prety good
6)perfectly
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My vote:

O2 sensor.
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mpolli

Based on the age of the car, I'm tempted to agree with you but, it bothers me that he does'nt have the Check Engine light on.
Possibly the catalytic converter " going south "?

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