How rare are w-140's s600's??
 

I asked the question on another section on this site, but I was wondering how rare are the w-140 s class 600's?? Primarily the 92 s-600's

I was really curious about this. Any info would be great.

I imported a few hundred a year. So rare enough that they are not on every corner.

Im not good with import and export but a few hundred sounds very few, when they make what like 20,000 + cars ( a certain maker) a year? So would these be consider real rare, or just somewhat rare? I want to find out especially about the year 1992, when they had the 408 horsepower which supposedly only this year did of those w-140's?

Oh and also in very good/ near perfect condition what do they go for?
just wondering.

Why in the world would you want a first year W140??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I have seen my fair share of S600s (the '92-3 is the 600SEL) and one of those I believe was an SEL. If you think of trying to get one on the cheap, start doing your homework on how expensive the 140 is to maintain then add all the extra bits the 600s have...

I consider any S600 quite rare, it was nearly $150k when new. Even nice '97-99 ones are $25k or less now.

^^^ Actually I bought one about 2 months ago, a good amount of service records, 140,000 miles on it, near perfect condition. And the few minor things ( trans fliud change, bose amp going out, brake light sensor, and cigarette lighter out) have all been fixed. So hopefully staying on top of it like I have been will help me out.


I was just wondering since when I actually looked for s 600's in the 92-95 era they were very rare. But I have yet to find a link or something that explains a little more about how rare they really are.

Very rare...at least for the coupes.

The M120 engine that poweres that beast was the ONLY hand built MB engine of that era!


Have seen some for less than $10K. & they weren't worth that much.

I guess it was a bad "BOSE' after all, not speakers!

They are rare enough that it is going to cost an arm and a leg if anything major needs to be repaired.

Mercedes-Benz Production Models Book-
 

says that in 1992, 835 600SE models were built and 7497 600SEL models were built. A 600SEL sold for 127,800 in the US. Cars were built with model years 1990-4.

Nothing, no resale. By GM standard real rare, by MB standards not really.

'92s have the typical wiring harness issue, but the early car have DUAL computers I recall and DUAL harnesses. If those take a crap. $$$$$

Evap installs. Everything on the 92s can go bad.

7500 isn't a huge number, my '87 SDL is more rare but I see plenty more SDLs about than I do 600s.

$127,800 + taxes.

Early S 600s had the 400+ hp engine which was later reduced in power to comply with new European emissions limits. Any good tech can reprogram the computer on later limited hp models to regain their original spec.

Early production W140s (first three years) are a nightmare.

Later production W140s (last three years) are a dream come true (even though they still had a few faults).

Correct me if I'm wrong but in 92 they only made around 7,500 sel 600's? Is that number worldwide or just for the u.s? If so how does that compare to other mercedes around that time? Maybe just an s class?

Yes, that is total production of the 600SEL for that year.

Book says 11,537 300E's built in 1992 along with 2884 of the same model with optional 24-valve engine. There were 9715 260E models built which was called 320E 2.6 in the U.S. 29, 361 190E's were built.

On a side note, anyone know how many toyota camry's or lexus 300's or something like that were made in 92?

500,000?:D

If you want to know exact production numbers for ALL W140s from 1999 to 2000 open this site:

www.mb-W140.de

Then click on "Produktionszahlen" on the left column.

S600 1992 is not rare period. Parts are now cheap except for the throttle actuator, you can't find the harness anywhere in the world, its specially made my some hobbiest of the S600. Don't be fool by the nightmare story you hear. Once you have fixed the harness and change the climate control module, the rest will break due to wear and tear, much like any other mercedes benz, enjoy the power and let is rip.

My friends dad has had a 1995 S600 for years, its been as trouble free as a Honda.

My understanding is that you can find more 94 and up s 600's but how hard is it to find a 92 s600? I have yet to been able to find one for sale. ANd I know I can look at the blue book price, but is that the true value even though there hard to find?

That's because there is no such beast. There are 1994 S600's, but no such thing as a 1992 or 1993 S600. Same chassis, same engine - but the 1992 and 1993 MY's were badged as "600SEL".

sorry, I cant get use to calling them a SEL 600, It just doesnt sound right to me especially when 99 percent of the cars I see are a s500 or s600. It just sounds so much better.

Its 600SEL.

It means:
600 6L engine
S sounderklass(sp???) Germans rusty its like the top, best ect.
E Einspritzung
L LWB

In model year 1993, 1994 for the states they changed it.

Im sorry I must of missed it but what does this stand for??

S sounderklass(sp???) Germans rusty its like the top, best ect.
E Einspritzung
L LWB

6L, long wheel base, fuel injected, S class=600SEL.

1st and 2nd Gen LS400s may be mechanically sound (I work on a 240K one) but the interior is sub-par. Leather is poor, carpeting on panels falls off, etc... '98+ seem to be holding up better.

I've seen tired 80s 126s with better interiors still. Aside from the interior aspect, paint is holding up well as is the motor. Done the timing belt once.

Anyway, I wouldn't take an early 600.

There are many more S500's and S320's available.

if anyone can find a link that shows how much primarily a 92 s600 is selling for in very good condition I would love to see it. I cant seem to find anything sold like that.

Search autotrader and ebay for comps. You should be able to come up with a bunch pretty quick.

Ok I just checked 3 sites and nothing came up except for 1 car out of those 3 sites. Are you sure your not confusing this with the s500?

Heres my results

1992-1993 sel 600 mercedes



0 on autotrader

0 on ebaymotors

1 on craigslist


So howcome I only get 1 find in a nationwide search on those 3 major sites, when it sounds like you guys tell me there common?

Can anyone tell me? whats going wrong with my search? It seems like Im doing something wrong, or people that are telling me I can find them are wrong?

I am quite sure that you could figure it out yourself in less time than it took you to ask the question.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Search S600. ;)

I can tell you right now what they are worth jack s**t. Resale is horrible.

WHen you say there horrible on resale. What would you say a very good + s600, low miles would go for? I bought it for 10,000 and my mechanic and a few other people think I got a steal. But I cant seem to find a definite answer or for that matter find out what there going for since I cant find any.

Why do you keep asking the same question? :confused: It is only worth as much as some one wants to pay for one, in your case... $10,000. Would I have paid $10k for a 1992 600SEL with 140k? No. That's not that low of mileage. 40-65k is low mileage to me. There are many sub 100K cars around.

The W140 has awful resale, look at the MSRP versus what you can purchase them for now...

If it is trouble free for the $10k, be happy. I hope you received service history with the purchase or you really paid too much. It's pretty common knowledge the early 140s were very spendy to deal with. The '97-99 are the best if you want to own one, obviously more expensive as fewer were made and all the bugs are pretty much gone in them.

S600s started in 1994, YOU HAVE a 600SEL.

Here, gives you an idea of the value - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-1992-mercedes-600-sel-v-12_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQihZ011QQitemZ320068294271QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

110k, 1992 600SEL, $6000.

I'd pay $20k tops for a super mint low mileage 1999. Any more and I'd go W220 shopping.

$10k-$15k will do good examples.

$10k and under for dogs.

I wouldn't buy a W140 made before 1997. I want the 722.6 trans and all the updates. If I ever go W140 I think a 1999 S320 or a 1999 S500 Grand Edition would be what I would hunt for.

A 92 600SEL with 140K in perfect condition is worth about 8K or 9K to me, but it better be in PERFECT condition. If it's not, then deduct accordingly for needed repairs. Realistically I would pay about 6k or 7K for one in average condition with a few minor issues. The main reason is that the car will be a money pit, so better to pay as little as possible up front. Or better yet, skip it and go for a 500SEL or S500 for just a little more. Parts and knowledge are abundant for those since they are not so rare.

This one appears to be in fairly good condition and only went for $8,000, and it's a lot newer (1995) with far less miles (100K). This is the way an S600 should be purchased. Do a local inspection, then bid away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-Series-1995-Mercedes-S600-V12-Low-Miles-Euro-Car-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6333QQihZ017QQitemZ270074800876QQrdZ1

Sorry to bring up an old thread. But hit man x and hatty was saying that the resale value of the W140's arent great?

Well from everyone ive talked to $8K for my S420 was a steal. I had looked up the blue book value of my S420 (which i near mint condition with the exception of a few door dings) here was the value with 144K miles (thats how much it had when i bought it, it now has 148K and its only been a month!:D )

Retail: $14,300

private: $11,535

trade in: $8,925

So i got it below the trade in price, that sounds like a steal and i could turn around and sell it for $10K if i wanted too....of course i wont because i love the car:P

EDIT: by the way ive seen more S600's and 600SEL's then i have a 300SDL's. Actually i know of 2 guys around my house that have S600's. But i always see them parked in the same spot when i drive by their houses....cant be cheap to drive them everyday i suppose.

Yea thats waht I was saying to. Im not sure and not trying to disrespect anyone but I'm thinking its more of their opinion then anything factual. Because not only did I look on the nada guides but the all mercedes shop that I take my car to said that I got a steal for 10,000 bucks for my 92 sel 600. They said if I paid 15,000 for it I would of got a steal.

They have over 60 yrs. over experience between the 3 of them their. So I kind of take the previous posters responses with a grain of salt.


Oh and by the way I seen a few sel 600's but show me on the net or anywhere you can provide a link to of a 92 sel 600. There almost impossible to find info a bout.

http://v12uberalles.com/

Site has great info on the common W140 troubles, plus repairs and tips on the V12 engine.

By the way i think you got a steal on your 600SEL. Its a very nice car and the upgrades done to it by the previous owner make it all the more better. Gas mileage must be a pain though!

Yea the gas mileage is horrible. It's not so bad now because I live in sf and I dont drive it as much, I usually only drive it on longer freeway trips. But I definitely see the gas being sucked out of the tank