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trueog 06-10-2007 08:25 PM

What is P0170 code for fuel trim malfunction ? how can i fix this?
 
Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my check engine light continuously coming on. Last night I did an OBDII scan, and the result was a P0170 code for fuel trim malfunction. What does this mean? what is fuel trim? and how can I fix this problem? The car is a 94 C220. So if anyone can help me out, i would be very thankful.



take care

blackmercedes 06-10-2007 08:33 PM

It means your FI system is running either too lean or too rich and the computer can no longer compensate for the problem. You will have to figure out which way it is running and examine the possible problems. On most cars, the Air Mass Meter is at fault, or the fuel pressure regulator. Your C220 uses an Air Mass Meter system, and they are prone to failure. Replace your engine air-intake filter often to extend the life of the part.

I'm not sure how much info the SDS gives in terms of adaptation values for the 1994 models, but if it does, diagnosis is usually pretty easy. Suppose your FI is maxed adaption at 1.32, then odds are you have a bad AMM. Replace the AMM with a known good one, recheck adaptations, and I bet you'll have the culprit. If your system is adapting to .67, then odds are the fuel pressure regulator has gone bad. Do as for 1.32.

Also, a clogged fuel filter can cause FI trim problems. When was it last replaced?

Arthur Dalton 06-10-2007 09:07 PM

Also, unmetered air downstream from maf.[ vac leak]
Pull vac hose off fuel reg and see if any gas comes out of that port. Should be none.

Check this before change MAF

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/188840-p0170-code-should-i-get-tested.html?highlight=p0170

trueog 06-10-2007 09:24 PM

Hey thanks for the response. I changed my AMM about 18 months ago. So i'm hoping its not the culprit again. I want to look into the fuel pressure regulator, where's this part located? and what will help me notice it?

The fuel filter I will get my mechanic to change, I hope that solves the problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmercedes (Post 1532385)
It means your FI system is running either too lean or too rich and the computer can no longer compensate for the problem. You will have to figure out which way it is running and examine the possible problems. On most cars, the Air Mass Meter is at fault, or the fuel pressure regulator. Your C220 uses an Air Mass Meter system, and they are prone to failure. Replace your engine air-intake filter often to extend the life of the part.

I'm not sure how much info the SDS gives in terms of adaptation values for the 1994 models, but if it does, diagnosis is usually pretty easy. Suppose your FI is maxed adaption at 1.32, then odds are you have a bad AMM. Replace the AMM with a known good one, recheck adaptations, and I bet you'll have the culprit. If your system is adapting to .67, then odds are the fuel pressure regulator has gone bad. Do as for 1.32.

Also, a clogged fuel filter can cause FI trim problems. When was it last replaced?


trueog 06-10-2007 09:26 PM

Hey Arthur, where can I find my fuel reg? where's it located and what does it look like? I want to check it as you've stated....

thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton (Post 1532421)
Also, unmetered air downstream from maf.[ vac leak]
Pull vac hose off fuel reg and see if any gas comes out of that port. Should be none.

Check this before change MAF

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/188840-p0170-code-should-i-get-tested.html?highlight=p0170


Arthur Dalton 06-10-2007 09:31 PM

It's right on the fuel rail..

looks like this

http://catalog.worldpac.com/mercedesshop/sophio/wizard.jsp?partner=mercedesshop&clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&cookieid=23I0RAMEE23U1A25DU&year=1994&make=MB&model=C-220-001&category=C&part=Fuel+Pressure+Regulator

trueog 06-10-2007 10:08 PM

I'll try to find this. The car's running really rich, the fumes just stink! I think this might be causing it.

Thanks

trueog 06-25-2007 03:29 AM

is this part under the hood? still can't find it...thanks

forp 06-25-2007 03:38 PM

Look on top front of engine. There is a vacuum line from the regulator to the intake manifold. Pull the vacuum line and check for gas. If it is damp the regulator has gone south.

trueog 06-25-2007 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forp (Post 1545969)
Look on top front of engine. There is a vacuum line from the regulator to the intake manifold. Pull the vacuum line and check for gas. If it is damp the regulator has gone south.

Hey thanks for the details. I looked at the vacuum hose and i noticed it had alot of wear and small cracking...so i put electrical tape over the effected area and will be ordering a new one shortly. I didn't feel or small any gas, so i think the part's working.

I went to a parts store here called Lordco and bought a cleaner made by CRC called "MAF Sensor Cleaner". I followed the instructions and cleaned my MAF, which is only 18 months old right now. I then removed the negative terminal from my battery to reset the car. So let's see if it worked, and how long before the check engine light resurfaces once again.

gmercoleza 07-06-2007 09:39 AM

trueog, did your CEL return?

trueog 07-06-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmercoleza (Post 1556185)
trueog, did your CEL return?

Hey, thanks for the response.

Yes my CEL light has resurfaced :confused: ..... this is not fun...

do u have any suggestions? thanks

gmercoleza 07-07-2007 08:18 AM

No suggestions, it's just that I had a similar issue where I got the same code. I reset the code and so far it hasn't come back, but I want to be ready for if/when it does...

trueog 08-15-2007 06:48 PM

anybody have any more ideas?

timmyj51 08-15-2007 08:31 PM

Same malfuntion code came up on my '95 C220 (car was
idling rough at startup).
After looking for vacuum leaks found that the air duct
between the MAS and throttle body had completely
worn through where its clamped to the throttle body.
Wrapped it in electric tape and now car's running smooth
as ever. Check engine light hasn't come back on.
Will get the air duct replaced this week.


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