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Old 07-30-2007, 12:35 PM
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'99 E320 Rear Door Panel Removal?

I have a '99 E320 and the rear passenger window went down and will not go up on its own power.

How do you remove the rear door panel as I assume I will have to remove it to address the issue?

What could the problem be? Initially you could hear the mechanism operating, but no window movement upward, only downward. I pulled the window up by hand and it will stay up and slide down about 1/4".

There seems to be no power to window (as I hear no noise now), so the magic question is how to fix it?

Mike

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Old 07-30-2007, 01:15 PM
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Almost guaranteed the window regulator broke. That must be the most common failure on this line of cars. Try searching for "210 window regulator" for more information.

Here's a step-by-step for removing the front door panel: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W210FrontDoorPanel. Don't know of one for the rear door; the procedure should be quite similar.

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Old 07-30-2007, 02:08 PM
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You can temporarily use a piece of wood (2 x 4) with a screw or nail in it to hold up the windows until the correct regulator can be sourced. That's what holds up both of my W210 rear windows; the previous owner had me do it for him when the regulators both went out a couple years ago, since nobody ever rode in the back seat. I'll be replacing them soon...
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:03 PM
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Window Regulator

Thank so much.

Where do I locate this regulator and what does it look like?

Tonight or tomorrow I will be trying to remove door panel to assess the situation. I will get back with a progress report.

This is my first Benz and it is the best car I have ever owned. Now to fix a few issues. Also the passenger fog lamp is out. How do I remove it? Everything seems sealed and unaccessable. I never had a car that was so weathertight.

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Old 07-30-2007, 09:44 PM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=CxsTTU0zLdI
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:52 PM
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You can temporarily use a piece of wood (2 x 4) with a screw or nail in it to hold up the windows until the correct regulator can be sourced. That's what holds up both of my W210 rear windows; the previous owner had me do it for him when the regulators both went out a couple years ago, since nobody ever rode in the back seat. I'll be replacing them soon...
I took apart one regular old clothes pin and used the two parts as wedges to hold my window up while waiting for the reg to arrive.

You can use a few small SS screws and nuts to put it back together rather than trying to use the very heavy rivets as MB designed. Put some loctite on them so they dont rattle off.

Phil (buy parts link above) has regulators, as does eBay.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:28 PM
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I put a 1/4-20 tap through the holes in the regulator, and it made quite nice threads. That was easier than using nuts.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:01 AM
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I took off the door panel from the YOUTUBE site video posted from Raymond. Thank you so much. First time I have been on that site. It was a snap.

I isolated the problem to a broken window cable. I played with it for an hour removing the motor (which works) and unraveling the cable. I finally realized the cable was jambed at the top pulley where I couldn't get at it.

How do I proceed?

How do I remove the window from channel it sits in w/o breaking it?

After window removal, do I drill out the rivets that hold the carrage the holds the 2 pulleys, cable take up spool, and channel that holds the window pane?

Where can I source a replacement assembly, or can I respool the unit with a new cable?

Please advise me.

Thanks everyone,
Mike
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:12 AM
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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1226700-diy-pictorial-window-regulator-replacement.html
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:13 AM
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After removing the plastic access panel below the bumper, you will see how the fog lamp housing opens up in the rear to facilitate lamp replacement.
On my W210, the problem was the wire into the external junction was corroded and had broken. I simply stripped back to clean wire, soldered it into the connector pin, and all is well now. I guess you could remove the little junction completely and use a insulated male/female spade set.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:44 PM
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Thanks Ron Young. I will look at it tonight. Are you saying there is just a bulb inside the glass housing you see from the outside. That would be nice. Or does the who Glass fixture come out. I will check for corroded wires too.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:18 PM
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there is an H1 bulb inside the fog lamp housing, easily removeable after you
remove the black cover. the main fastener is the teeter-totter black fastener
you see at the bottom of the black rear housing cover. access the bulb within
the housing -- which is attached via two wire retaining legs locked by hooks.





you can do both....remove the bulb through the hatch, or you can remove the
light housing (usually not needed unless you need to replace broken lens)
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:47 PM
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This weekend I did the repairs according to everyones advice.
It went without a hitch. It was actually an enjoyable affair.

The door window regulator was easy to swap out and I used rivets to install the new one. I got the new one on eBay for $64 w/ shipping, it only took an hour to install, and I'm a total novice.

The fog lamp was also easy once I rolled the car up on ramps. I swapped the bulb with the other one to determine if it really was the bulb, because it didn't look burned out. It was bad and a new bulb only cost $7 from Auto Zone. That was a surprise for me.

I'm really proud of my self that it was so easy. You have to understand that I'm not an auto mechanic. It was actually fun to do. I have more projects to do on my first and recently purchased '99 E320.

Now I'm going to post 2 more projects asking for advice. This forum and club is awesome. Again thanks for the advice from everyone.

Lord Bless
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:57 PM
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did you, perchance, note the part which failed? i just read where it's possible
to purchase a component which is <$10. check out the text/photos here...
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:16 AM
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regulator

Actually, the cables was broke and mangled around the take up spool. I thought about rebuilding it but it seemed like some parts were damaged too. I'm saving it for the future.

Mike

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