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08-21-2007, 03:56 AM
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Unknown reversed wires puzzle 560SEL
My can is 560SEL 1989. After changing injectors, spark plugs/wires and some other parts such as fuel accumulator, after that I noticed two problems:
1. The car will not start until I reverse the EHA wires in the opposite position. If the car was hot it will start but rough. 2. The trip cluster that indicates the current fuel consumption is reversed. That means when I accelerate it indicates low fuel consumption and when I release the fuel pedal it indicates high fuel consumption. I tried my best on that car but it was useless. I don't remember that I reversed any wires. Have anyone faced such problem before? This is a real mystery at leat for me.
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Master Computer Engineer, A+, Network+, MCP/MCSA/MCSE 4/2k/2k3 - Messaging, MCTS, MCITP, MCT, Brainbench, ICDL and starting Ph.D 380SE 1984 <------- Totaled by flipping accident 300SE 1988 <------- Sold Volvo S70 2000 <---- 4 family Opel Omega 2002 <-- 4 family 560SEC 1989 <------ Sold 560SEL 1990 <------ Sold 560SEL 1991 <------ 4 my mother 560SEL 1989 <------ Sold 600SEL 1992 <------ Current 
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08-21-2007, 02:15 PM
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I know it's not a common problem and hard to get fixed or even to start to fix
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Master Computer Engineer, A+, Network+, MCP/MCSA/MCSE 4/2k/2k3 - Messaging, MCTS, MCITP, MCT, Brainbench, ICDL and starting Ph.D 380SE 1984 <------- Totaled by flipping accident 300SE 1988 <------- Sold Volvo S70 2000 <---- 4 family Opel Omega 2002 <-- 4 family 560SEC 1989 <------ Sold 560SEL 1990 <------ Sold 560SEL 1991 <------ 4 my mother 560SEL 1989 <------ Sold 600SEL 1992 <------ Current
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#3
08-21-2007, 03:34 PM
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If that is in fact the problem, simply pop open the plastic connector housing and reverse the pins and snap it closed. Done.
What is a "trip cluster that indicates fuel consumption"? - I have no idea what you are talking about.
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I got too many cars!! Insurance eats me alive. Dave 78 Corvette Stingray - 3k 82 242 Turbo Volvo - Manual - 270k 86 300e 5 speed manual - 210k 87 420sel - 240k 89 560sl - 78k 91 420sel - 205k 91 560sel - 85k 94 GMC Suburban - 90k 97 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail - 25k 00 GMC Silverado 1 ton 30k Last edited by dpetryk; 08-21-2007 at 03:44 PM.
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08-21-2007, 03:40 PM
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Isn't the economy gauge vaccuum actuated? maybe some kind of vaccuum line is somehow disconnected or reversed. ( if that's even possible)
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08-21-2007, 03:56 PM
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It sounds like you knocked the cabin vacuum line loose - back of the intake manifold, and the vacuum aka economy gauge is reading zero. This will cause a vacuum leak.
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Chuck Taylor Falls Church VA '66 200, '66 230SL, '96 SL500. Sold: '81 380SL, '86 300E, '72 250C, '95 C220, 3 '84 280SL's '90 420SEL, '72 280SE, '73 280C, '78 280SE, '70 280SL, '77 450SL, '85 380SL, '87 560SL, '85 380SL, '72 350SL, '96 S500 Coupe
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08-21-2007, 04:38 PM
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did you check the vaccum lines right around the firewall closest to the engine?
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1984 300SD Orient Red/ Palomino 1989 560SEC 2016 Mazda 6 6 speed manual 1995 Ford F-150 reg cab 4.9 5speed manual
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08-22-2007, 02:16 AM
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The economy gauge is controlled electronically not via vacuum. The trip cluster is very rare in W126. I attached its picture.
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Master Computer Engineer, A+, Network+, MCP/MCSA/MCSE 4/2k/2k3 - Messaging, MCTS, MCITP, MCT, Brainbench, ICDL and starting Ph.D 380SE 1984 <------- Totaled by flipping accident 300SE 1988 <------- Sold Volvo S70 2000 <---- 4 family Opel Omega 2002 <-- 4 family 560SEC 1989 <------ Sold 560SEL 1990 <------ Sold 560SEL 1991 <------ 4 my mother 560SEL 1989 <------ Sold 600SEL 1992 <------ Current
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08-22-2007, 08:12 AM
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Oh. One of those doomahickeys. nevermind
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1984 300SD Orient Red/ Palomino 1989 560SEC 2016 Mazda 6 6 speed manual 1995 Ford F-150 reg cab 4.9 5speed manual
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08-22-2007, 08:28 AM
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Ditto, never seen one. But it still may need vacuum to operate.
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Chuck Taylor Falls Church VA '66 200, '66 230SL, '96 SL500. Sold: '81 380SL, '86 300E, '72 250C, '95 C220, 3 '84 280SL's '90 420SEL, '72 280SE, '73 280C, '78 280SE, '70 280SL, '77 450SL, '85 380SL, '87 560SL, '85 380SL, '72 350SL, '96 S500 Coupe
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08-22-2007, 09:40 AM
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Where do they mount that thing in the car? Never seen one. Is it an option from MB?
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I got too many cars!! Insurance eats me alive. Dave 78 Corvette Stingray - 3k 82 242 Turbo Volvo - Manual - 270k 86 300e 5 speed manual - 210k 87 420sel - 240k 89 560sl - 78k 91 420sel - 205k 91 560sel - 85k 94 GMC Suburban - 90k 97 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail - 25k 00 GMC Silverado 1 ton 30k
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08-22-2007, 10:45 AM
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it operates without vacuum. There is a computer to control it. Yes it's a very rare option on W126 and is mounted on the instrument cluster exactly in the RPM place where the RPM is moved to the left side. I'll try to snap a photo soon for you
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Master Computer Engineer, A+, Network+, MCP/MCSA/MCSE 4/2k/2k3 - Messaging, MCTS, MCITP, MCT, Brainbench, ICDL and starting Ph.D 380SE 1984 <------- Totaled by flipping accident 300SE 1988 <------- Sold Volvo S70 2000 <---- 4 family Opel Omega 2002 <-- 4 family 560SEC 1989 <------ Sold 560SEL 1990 <------ Sold 560SEL 1991 <------ 4 my mother 560SEL 1989 <------ Sold 600SEL 1992 <------ Current
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