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GradyService 11-08-2007 05:58 PM

Brake Fluid Flush Questions?
 
If this has "never" been done to your 20+ year old MB, should you do it now?

Thanks, Dave.

MB-Dude 11-08-2007 06:01 PM

I think so. However, I'd wait until the very dry weather of late winter/early spring.
Cheers,
Jeff

Arthur Dalton 11-08-2007 06:07 PM

I would spray the bleeders with BP Blaster for a couple of days before attempting to break them loose.. old ones will snap right off if you don't take
that precaution..

GradyService 11-08-2007 06:08 PM

Okay, thanks for the prompt response. Now, should a MB be pressure bled, or done the old fashion way. Also, what brake fluid should be used? DOT4 or?

Thanks, Dave.

Arthur Dalton 11-08-2007 06:10 PM

Dot 3 or 4 is OK,.
No system should be bleed the Old Fashion way.

ScottinSoCal 11-08-2007 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyService (Post 1668894)
If this has "never" been done to your 20+ year old MB, should you do it now?

A qualified 'yes'.

It should definitely be done, but there are three ways to do it. I would only consider two of them.

There's a pressure bleeder that hooks up to your brake fluid container and pushes new brake fluid through the system. There's a vacuum bleeder that hooks up to the caliper bleed and pulls new brake fluid through the system. Then there's the old-fashioned method of having someone sit in the driver seat and pump the brake pedal to build up pressure while someone else bleeds the brakes.

The first two would be fine, but they'll take some extra equipment you may or may not have. The last one is almost guaranteed to damage the seals on your calipers after 20 years of sludge buildup. Forcing the piston and seal to go well beyond the normal range of travel with crap in the way is a recipe for damaged seals. If you don't have the equipment and don't want to buy it, take it in to someone who does have it and will use it. I got a pressure bleeder for less than $100 and it does a beautiful job. I also got a hand vacuum pump for less than $30 and it included a kit to vacuum bleed the brakes.

280EZRider 11-09-2007 12:32 AM

On any car that has not had a brake-system bleed for 20 years, I would not waste my time bleeding the system without first rebuilding or replacing the calipers, master cylinder and rubber lines. Once this is done, I would prefer the old fashion way of bleeding.

whunter 11-09-2007 02:03 AM

Answer:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyService (Post 1668894)
If this has "never" been done to your 20+ year old MB, should you do it now?

Thanks, Dave.

Please look through this thread for answers to your questions.

ShopForum > Do It Yourself Links & Resources > DIY Links by Parts Category
Brake:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diy-links-parts-category/142411-brake.html







Have a great day.

t walgamuth 11-09-2007 06:43 AM

I would not hesitate to do it without rebuilding calipers and such. No harm in trying. I always do it the old fashoned way. I have never had a problem with hyperextension of seals.

I once had a spill with a power bleeder and after wiping brake fluid off the ceiling of my garage, myself and my collector car, I lost all enthusiasm for the small amount of time saved by the use of them.

Tom W

cf 11-09-2007 01:19 PM

Piece of wood helps.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottinSoCal (Post 1668913)

The last one is almost guaranteed to damage the seals on your calipers after 20 years of sludge buildup. Forcing the piston and seal to go well beyond the normal range of travel with crap in the way is a recipe for damaged seals.

Old fashion precaution:

Check the brake pedal travel limit.
Get a piece of wood thick enough that would stop the pedal before it hits the lower limit when placed under the pedal.
Then when you manually bleed the piston rod would not over travel and hurt the seal.

Kestas 11-10-2007 12:06 PM

Has the car been sitting unused for a long while, or has the car been in continuous service for the past 20 years?

GradyService 11-10-2007 12:32 PM

In continuous service.


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