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zakh 11-28-2007 04:07 AM

Would like opinions on possible gearbox conversion
 
Hi everyone,

Well i own a 1990 190E 2.5-16 Auto.
Have had the car for years and have always maintained it to a very high standard.

I have always wanted a 5 speed manual getrag though :P

I have looked at cars for sale that are a manual but the problem is that they are in bad condition. I know where my car is at in terms of maintenance and i really do not want to buying something that needs work doing to it.

So im in a prediciment. Should i convert my car to a manual?
My main bones of contention are:

1. Losing originality (will the conversion have an impact on future sale value?)
2. Can i keep cruise control
3. VIN number mismatch

Everything on my car is completely standard. After driving my friends 2.5-16 manual it was a revelation.

I would love to hear some opinions on wether or not i should do this...
Many thanks guys...


Zak :)

t walgamuth 11-28-2007 07:17 AM

I would not worry about any of those things. Whatever loss in originality there is will be offset by the lack of desirability of the automatic, which would be a big negative at resale, I would think.

Tom W

mbdoc 11-28-2007 09:35 AM

Doubt that that conversion would have any effect on value. If the car was newer possibly.

Yes cruise will still work IF you wire in the clutch pedal switch & you switch the resistor plug in the controller.

What you really need to do the conversion correctly IS a donor car that you can get ALL of the needed parts.

zakh 11-28-2007 01:17 PM

Thanks guys for the replies.
All the correct parts will be in hand before the conversion.

In your opinion is it worthwhile, or should i leave well alone?

zakh 12-02-2007 07:35 AM

Bump!

deanyel 12-02-2007 09:56 AM

I say leave well enough alone - too big a job relative to the value of the car. If you really want the 5 speed find a nice 190E 2.6 - better engine anyway.

zakh 12-02-2007 10:29 AM

Car was valued recently for $24,000 USD
Im just trying to garnish some well informed opinions...
2.6 is a good engine, but i prefer the 2.5.

jhodg5ck 12-02-2007 10:51 AM

I'd say go for it.. A 2.5 16V w/ the 5sp would be quite the find for any 16V aficionado.

Was there a difference in diff ratio's on the 2.5 from auto to manual?

Jonathan

zakh 12-02-2007 10:54 AM

Thats a good question Jonathon.
Im not sure...Although the company that i have contacted who will do the conversion have said there is not.
But there is a slight difference in the speedometer.
I will look into the diff question more.

deanyel 12-02-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakh (Post 1691335)
Car was valued recently for $24,000 USD
Im just trying to garnish some well informed opinions...
2.6 is a good engine, but i prefer the 2.5.

Where are you? That car is virtually worthless in the U.S., even in good condition. It is not a well regarded engine.

zakh 12-02-2007 11:24 AM

You might be thinking about the 2.3...
Im in Europe...
Why is not a well regarded engine? Im curious!

t walgamuth 12-02-2007 11:35 AM

I think it is a bit high maintenance, compared to most benzes. And the smog controls robbed it of much of its performance so the later 2.6 all benz six cylinder is simpler and less expensive to maintain and about as fast.

I have driven a couple of them and kept thinking they were kindof doggy and felt it should have blown my socks off more. The chassis though is first class.

I believe the diff is the same.

Tom W

zakh 12-02-2007 12:14 PM

Thanks Tom.
My car is a non-cat version thankfully.

It all depends on what car you drive, but its true these cars do need maintenance...Often most are neglected and end up haggered sadly!

A lot of people say i should just leave well alone and not do the conversion. Others say its a no brainer!

deanyel 12-02-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakh (Post 1691394)
You might be thinking about the 2.3...
Im in Europe...
Why is not a well regarded engine? Im curious!

I was thinking about the 2.3-16 which was just an early troubled 4 valve top end. I don't think we ever got a 2.5-16 190E in the U.S.

zakh 12-02-2007 02:48 PM

Your right the early 2.3-16 did have issues, especially with the single timing chain. Right again in saying the 2.5 neer made it to the US because of poor sales for the 2.3 and strict emission laws!


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