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That is a nice looking car. Where did you get the front bumper and aero cladding? It looks also like a Sportline empblem on the side.
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Thanks. It's a Sportline Edition. Also has Remus exhaust and a authentic Lorinser body kit.
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I have seen a number of cars with 300CE-24 as the badge. I am reasonably sure that they came badged that way in the U.S., but I have no way to prove it.
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With rare Mercedes it is a good idea never to say never. They changed things in the midst of a production run whenever they thought they had a better idea.
Why not an emblem? Tom W
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I've seen those badges on ebay. Someone could have just stuck one on.
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That sounds like the old days. If it was ever used in the U.S. it would show up on EPC and it doesn't. U.S. 124.051s are one part only - "300CE". There was just no need to call it a 300CE - 24, it was never offered contemporaneously with the 12 valve in the same model. In Europe both the 300CE and the 300SL were offered in both 12 valve and 24 valve versions in the same model year. They had to make some distinction between them.
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so which would be the better one 1990-92 or 1993-95?
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I took the time to write a nice piece on the difference of these engines in an old thread.
I found it and will copy and paste it here: 1990-1992 300CE's have a different M104 engime (M104.990). This 3.0 liter-24 valve M104 engine is an early version of the 24-valve DOHC 3.2 liter M104 engine used from 1993-on. The 3.0 liter version still used the CIS-E fuel injection system as 1986-1992 3.0 liter M103 engines, using a distributor with one coil wire and 6 spark plug wires. This is basically a mechanical injection system with electronic control. The 3.2 liter M104 engine uses a different ignition system - HFM (hot-film mass air flow sensor), fully electronic with integrated electronic ignition and sequential fuel injection. This system combines fuel injection and ignition control in one module. HFM-SFI systems use coils that are mounted directly on the spark plugs, replacing the distributor at the front of the engine. Each coil pack provides spark to two spark plugs at the same time, one connected directly to one plug, and the other with a short high tension lead to the next spark plug. So there are 3 coil wires and 3 high tension lead wires. HFM fuel injection systems are designed so that idle speed can't be adjusted. Idle speed is completely controlled electronically. This HFM injection system also has adaptive technology that compensates for conditions such as engine wear and unmeasured intake air and is designed to maintain driveability as the engine ages. HFM-SFI can retard engine knocking to just the knocking cylinders, unlike the EZL technology of the 104.990, which retards spark timing across the entire engine. This keeps the ignition timing point as advanced as possible for maximum power output. The 3.2 liter M104 engines also have variable valve timing on the intake cam, making the torque curve broad and flat, developing HP at a much lower rpm. This makes the power much more useable and noticeable. The problem with the M104.992 engine, in my opinion, is that they are more expensive to run. Why? Early M104 engines had head gasket problems. Also, all 1993-1995 Mercedes have bad engine wiring harnesses. Last, M104 engines have an electronic throttle actuator which is notorious for failing. All three items are expensive to fix. 1992 300E's don't have the dreaded engine wiring harness problem, and also don't have a throttle actuator. Instead, they hava an idle control valve, which are not problematic. __________________
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