Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-10-2008, 12:53 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 18
adjusting the airflow mixture on 109e 2.3 {us}

i would just like to know the effect if adjusting the airflow mixture to lean will make the idel smooth? i've read it too some of the forum that adjusting it to lean make the idel smooth. will this also make the car more economical? on a laymans understanding if the mixture is rich it consume more gas {more power} and if it too lean less gas {less power} is my understanding right??????

another question if i make it too much lean does this make it economical???? {note: my question is on the basis that i'm driving the car on a standard type of driving using the economy guage}

I'm talking about the one behind of the air cleaner using a allen tool. it' in betwen the fuel distributor and a round plate that goes up and down every time you step on the trotel. it' inside of a small post

if anyone know the answer pls do or any comment i would highly appriciate it

thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-10-2008, 12:41 PM
crhenkel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Decatur, Illinois, USA
Posts: 616
That adjustment point is very touchy to adjustments and it usually causes more harm than good to adjust it without a CO meter and experience. Too much causes problems just as likely as too little. You will gain something by messing with it, but it wont be gas milage, it will likely be trouble.

If you do decide to adjust it, I may recommend buying a electronic multimeter that does duty cycle so you can measure the changes and read all the many good posts on the forum on how to adjust the air meter
__________________
Christopher Henkel
1990 190E 2.6 - Arctic white SOLD
1986 190E-16v - Blauswartze
1993 300CE - SOLD
2003 W208 CLK 320 Cabriolet - Magma Red
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-10-2008, 01:06 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Gainesville FL
Posts: 6,844
Absolutely no difference in mixture is achieved in mixture adjustment until one has overwhelmed the system. The mixture is self correcting. The only thing one can do is center the ability of the system to correct rich and lean. If one goes beyond the systems ability to correct it will run like a POS and get terrible mileage. The system is easy to adjust if you know what you are doing but once in control, what you get is what you got, idle wise. If it is poor then general mixture isn't the answer.
__________________
Steve Brotherton
Continental Imports
Gainesville FL
Bosch Master, ASE Master, L1
33 years MB technician
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-2008, 07:50 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebfl View Post
Absolutely no difference in mixture is achieved in mixture adjustment until one has overwhelmed the system. The mixture is self correcting. The only thing one can do is center the ability of the system to correct rich and lean. If one goes beyond the systems ability to correct it will run like a POS and get terrible mileage. The system is easy to adjust if you know what you are doing but once in control, what you get is what you got, idle wise. If it is poor then general mixture isn't the answer.



thanks gays for the info. anyway i tied adjusting it turing it 3/4 of a turn to the left the idel went very smooth and it gave me a little more milage in the consumption. i also notice that the acceleration speed has gone more nicer than before,{i think it did gave more power in it}. i'm still observing the condition of the engine right now, and planning to adjust it more for an experiment. {whether it would be nicer and great or not}

any i highly appriciate the reply you gays gave. by the way i'm from the phillipines. the reason for this question and experiment is that our street are not that wide as yours and the price of gas here is too expensive {1 liter is 44.07 pesos. on the conversion rate of 41 pesos to 1 us dollar}. but then you have too pay for the comfort in life.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-2008, 07:51 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebfl View Post
Absolutely no difference in mixture is achieved in mixture adjustment until one has overwhelmed the system. The mixture is self correcting. The only thing one can do is center the ability of the system to correct rich and lean. If one goes beyond the systems ability to correct it will run like a POS and get terrible mileage. The system is easy to adjust if you know what you are doing but once in control, what you get is what you got, idle wise. If it is poor then general mixture isn't the answer.


thank guys
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page