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jcyuhn 04-03-2008 11:17 AM

Question. How many miles on the cars with bad/failed ball joints?

I have my '93 in the shop right now to fix up the steering/suspension. We are replacing tie-rods (left, center, right), and control arm bushings. Ball joints are OK, per the shop. It has 130K miles. Symptoms were sloppy steering/wander on the highway, and a bit of a klunk in the drivers side front.
Shop says the struts are so-so, but at their prices I'll live with the OEM struts a while longer.

BTW, I do almost all my own work, but simply don't have time to deal with this now, and it cannot wait. I am simply shocked and astounded at the cost of having a top quality shop work on the car. It makes me realize why people simply buy a new Honda every 4 years.

- JimY

Johnhef 04-03-2008 07:39 PM

fyi on john's car, both ball joint boots were ripped and the noisy one was VERY dried out. Most of the ones I have seen the boots were ripped for a long time and ignored before they let loose.

land sea air 04-03-2008 09:23 PM

hopefully the white lithium will hold it until Saturday :(
Quiet as a mouse right now but maybe just the calm before the storm. Good thing you took a look when you did.

jcyuhn 04-03-2008 09:24 PM

Got the car back, and it is schweet. Drives like a new car. Tracks straight down the road. There is no slop in the steering. No funny noises. And the lane divider dots no longer make the suspension crash and bump (snow country people, never mind).

Slight correction. The shop replaced the control arms with new. Why spend on labor to R&R the bushings when you can instead just buy an entire new arm with bushings and ball joint pre-installed.

- JimY

Johnhef 04-03-2008 09:46 PM

Yeah I thought that too, but me doing it myself didnt make it worth it :)

diesel friend 04-08-2008 09:36 PM

hi, understand repair shops replace the ball joints without removing control arms. When the control arm is removed you can use a hydraulic press but what is used with the control arm still in place. Advice much appreciated

Johnhef 04-08-2008 10:17 PM

Theres a smaller press used to install the ball joint in the car.

babymog 04-08-2008 11:42 PM

I have had a couple of cars (201 & 124) that had good boots on the ball joints, but would occasionally creak. I use the hypodermic-type fitting on my grease gun and inject some CV-joint grease, massage it in, and have smooth ball-joints again. This also has a noticable effect on ride quality over small bumps.

Oh, same method for mid-life CV joints.


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