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Old 11-07-2001, 10:26 AM
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Ok Guys, it's been almost 3 weeks now and I have my verdict. I went with the Porterfields (porterfieldbrakes.com) and it was the R4-S model. So far I am happy. My brake dust is almost none existent, I have intentionally not washed the car just to monitor the brake dust build up and I'm pretty impressed. Close up on the wheels you will see some dust but it is very very light.
The brakes took about 2-3 days of normal driving to fully settle in and since then it's been stopping on a dime. For the first week I could also hear a very light squeal but that went away.
I ended up only changing the front pads because the rear factory ones looked like they were put in yesterday - no wear on them at all.
While I've got you guys here I'll ask this question which I will also post in Wheels and tires - my tires have about 15,000 miles on them, the fronts still look very new but the rears almost have all the middle patch of rubber scrubbed off. When I had the wheels and tires installed the resultant figures from the alignment were very near factory settings. Does this mean my toe figures are wrong, I know the camber issue makes tires wear on the inside and I don't have that problem?

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Old 11-07-2001, 11:47 AM
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Where do you get the Porterfield and how much are they?
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Old 11-07-2001, 12:41 PM
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I got the pads from Porterfieldbrakes.com for $119.00 +$10.00 S+H.
Myroadster.net can supply them also for $95.00 +SH but I had already put in my order with the initial company before he came through with his price.
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Old 11-07-2001, 09:12 PM
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Tola,
To slow the middle of the tire wear, just lower the pressure by about 4psi and try that. Higher pressure puts a smaller contact patch and thus wears the center more.
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Old 11-08-2001, 12:44 AM
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Well I'll be damned! I was about to extoll the virtues of the PBR/Axxis Deluxe pads that I've been using on my vehicles lately when I saw the asbestos note. The box doesn't say that but has multiple warnings about the "hazardous substance that can cause lung damage" contained within. See the MSDS for more info, naturally not included. I didn't think asbestos pads could even be sold anymore. The risk of mesothelioma or asbestosis merits a clearer and stronger warning than that.
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Old 11-08-2001, 11:12 AM
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Want me to sue them for you?!

It seems that they will progressiely replace Deluxe with Deluxe Plus which is asbestos free.
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Old 11-25-2001, 01:48 PM
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I stumbled on this while trying to ferret out facts regarding the composition of the PBR/AXXIS Deluxe pad. http://www.powerstopbrakes.com/deluxe.html
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Old 05-15-2003, 11:07 PM
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Late added note for those using the search

I also put EBC greenstuff on my W210 E320 and have been extremely frustrated. No dust, but squealing and pulsing like crazy. This car is babied and drived by my wife. Going back to the OEM and just getting the $12 car wash more often.
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Old 05-16-2003, 02:22 AM
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Odd how some have had problems with the EBC's and some not. I just installed the EBC greenstuff pads on my wifes 00 C230 about 2 months ago and so far they have exceeded my expectations. Virtually no dust and not a hint of squeal. When I installed them I used (can't remember the name) an orange colored substance for brakes to stop squeal. It must have worked because they are dead silent. I just wish they made them for the rear brakes which I installed ATE's. They dust up BIG TIME!! Looks weird after a few days because the rears dust up and the fronts don't!!

I'm going to install the EBC's on my E320 when the front pads wear out, can't wait because I hate the dust on my wheels.
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Old 05-16-2003, 08:18 AM
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It is odd. My E320 had 50K miles on it with the original pads. When I changed them I wanted to elimiate the brake dust on my wheels so I researched and went with the EBC pads. At first they seemed fine, with the exception of a little more firm pedal. Then the squealing began. Since I put them on the old rotors, I pulled them off and block sanded them to refresh the surface to give them another chance to bed to the old rotors and used the CRC orange glue type anti-squeal paste. Again, problem cured temporarily then back, not as bad as before, but back non the less. Now I also have pulsing through the wheel on easy braking, which is either warped rotors or deposits on the rotors.

If they are working for you, stick with them as they definately have less dust. Just food for thought.
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Old 05-16-2003, 10:19 AM
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Cool Red Stuff comments

FWIW I ran 4th generation reds stuff in my 500E, and they seemed suitable for everyday driving. However, since I'd bought them for track use, track them I did. Well, they held up temp-wise (zero fade after a full, hard track day of 4 30 min. sessions) but were worn to nothing at the end of the day (Carolina Motorsports Park). 150 miles a set, max. Did the same thing to a second set on the next day, but since I only ran 3 sessions I had enough material to get home. But they DESTROYED my rotors-wore them right down thru the slots, which I'd had cut to min. thickness (meaning when the slots were gone, so were the rotors).

I've since run a set of Italian Rofren pads at Mid-Ohio, and the set I drove to the track with (about 650 miles) I ran both full days, then drove home on. Rotors look great, and almost unbelievably they took the abuse that is Mid-Ohio (anyone that's driven there knows what I mean).

If anyone wants a set of these things, let me know

I am running at The Glen Mon-Tue this coming week, and will run the Rofrens again. I'll report in.
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Old 05-16-2003, 02:54 PM
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Michael,

How much did the Rowfren's cost you?
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Old 05-16-2003, 06:37 PM
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I'll get a price for your application. I presume you have stock '94 E420 binders?
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well...'95 E420...standard 4-piston setup on this model...
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Want me to sue them for you?!

It seems that they will progressiely replace Deluxe with Deluxe Plus which is asbestos free.
Australia had placed a ban on abestos that will translate into a phase-out of asbestos in brake linings. There is a letter on Bendix Mintex's site, Bendix Mintex makes the Axxis pads, PBR makes their own.
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