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Old 09-18-2001, 09:43 AM
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Axxis Metal Master & EBC Brake Pads

Can anyone tell me if Axxis Metal Masters make brake pads for the W210, the E420 really. I've read how good they are but cannot find them anywhere for this model.
If there is not a part for this model what are the recommendations on the EBC green stuff pads? I've found them at the only thing is that they list the same part for both the E320 and E420, is this right?, I thought the E420 would require different stopping power than the E320.
Please enlighten me.
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Old 09-18-2001, 01:02 PM
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The "metal-masters" have been around for years!! Repco, now Axxis branded but the same ***CHEAP*** brake pad! Haven't seen any of the newer MB's with EBC pads BUT I have tried a set for my 16V race car & wasn't impressed at all!
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Old 09-18-2001, 04:21 PM
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If you really want to try out the Axxis pads, try
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Old 09-18-2001, 09:42 PM
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I have never tried theese pads on a Mercedes but have used them on Volvo's with excellent results. They are sold under the names of Repco, Axxis, and PBR. One of the reasons I really like them is that they do not wear out rotors as fast as some of the high metal pads and do not create the black dust that we all hate on our wheels.

I was curious too if they were available for Mercedes.
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Old 09-19-2001, 05:03 PM
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I recently put EBC Greens on my 98 E320. I am very unhappy with them. Yes, I don't have the dust, but they squeal, and the pedal pressure is much higher. Plus I'm getting some pedal modulation.

I guess you can tell I don't recommend them. I have heard good things about them, from non MB owners.


ps, I lost the 'brake assist' feature, after I changed the pads. Has anyone else experienced this? I assumed it was more a factor of the soft pads?
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Old 09-19-2001, 05:45 PM
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TRY the Porterfield pads they work great! no dust NO SQUEAK NO FADE i have used them on several of my cars including a ex ml and they worked super! Also the porterfield pads DO NOT EAT ROTORS they come in several compounds and porterfield treats brake rotors a la frozen treatment that makes the rotor last A LOT LONGER PORTERFIELD IS IN COSTA MESA CALIFORNIA sorry i dont have his phone # good luck

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Old 09-19-2001, 10:47 PM
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I've tried both of these as well as Mintex and OE on my E420 (94). The OE's work great and are quiet and create a lot of dust. Axxis has both metal masters and deluxe. The deluxe pad is quiet, works great, and has somewhat less dust than the OE's (about half). The Axxis metalmasters have very little dust, but will wear the rotors much faster. The Mintex has problems with the fitment listings on US spec cars. Less dust than OE and Axxis deluxe, but more than metal master. They tended to cause a buildup on the rotor that gave an uneven feel to the brakes. EBC's were a major disappointment. SQUEAL!!!!!

My choice is the Axxis deluxe, might try the metalmasters next time, but doubt it, the brake dust is very tolerable with the deluxe.

HOpe this helps.
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Old 09-20-2001, 08:27 PM
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One thing you might want to think about is the fact that PBR Deluxe pads DO contain asbestos. That is some nasty stuff, and with all the other pads on the market, I don't see why we should expose ourselves to such a dangerous substance.

If you do your own brakework, there is no way to avoid the dust.

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Old 09-21-2001, 08:17 PM
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EBC Greenstuff

I recently changed out my "stock" front pads for the EBC Greenstuff due to excessive dust. I was also experienceing loud squealing with the stock pads. Since changing to EBC, no squealing and very little dust on my wheels.

Did the work myself, thanks to the DYI on this forum. Took less than an hour to do.

Just thought I'd confuse things a bit here.

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Old 09-24-2001, 03:20 PM
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So far from responses and my digging - Axxis metalmasters do not make a pad for the W210, the EBC's have had a mixed reception on this Benz model and forum, Mintex - not that good. So it's looking like I'll have to go with the Porterfield's, any other experiences with the Porterfield R-S4 before I order them.
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Old 11-05-2001, 10:33 AM
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What did you end up doing, I am about to face the same thing.
I appears that Porterfield may be the best choice.
Which one did you get, are you happy, and where/how did you order it?
Thanks for your help. I have a 97 E420 as well.
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Old 11-06-2001, 01:20 PM
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I have used all of the ones described.
Porterfields are good pads, I have used the Axxis/Repco's with great results. Worked best for me matter of fact. The OEM Jurids,Textars, Pagid are good pads but the dust and the damage to the wheels is unacceptable.

One thing to think about.

If you subscribe to the rule of not turning the rotors when changing pads.
It shouldn't be an issue on the rotor wear.

The Pad isn't going to wear down the rotor faster that the pad wearing out.

I'm a little of both, If the rotor is warped, no amount of turning is going to bring it back permanently. The warp will show up again.

If you are doing a clean up pass on used rotors w/ new pads. Give it a shot. I've had good luck here also. Both MB and Non MB.

I new change pads without a cleanup pass or new rotor.
New pads on old surface rotors is inviting problems.

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Old 11-06-2001, 01:30 PM
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hate brake squeals

The cold fronts moving through the NE seem to have induced some unexpected squealing in my OE pads. I might switch to one of the recommmended pads, haven't made up my mind. I'm also looking into using "Squeak Relief" which I believe is available at Napa. Anyone tried this out yet?

I thought it was similar to the anti-squeal grease but apparently works in a different way.
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Old 11-06-2001, 02:19 PM
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Do Axxis Deluxe contain asbestos?
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Old 11-06-2001, 02:44 PM
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I answered my own question - Axxis Deluxe contain asbestor

Axxis Deluxe Plus (new product) is supposed to be as good and not contain asbestos.

Does anyone know where to buy online Axxis Deluxe Plus pads?
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