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pics are waaaaay to big
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That failure was definitely caused by a fatigue crack that began at a small defect on the surface of the metal. The crack slowly ate it's way through the rod. Each of thousands of vibrations caused the crack to deepen. If you look at the face of the failure under a microscope you will see thousands of arching lines radiating out from a single point at the edge of the failure. This caused a smooth surface across a portion of the face of the failure. The metal at the center of the rod tore because the rod became too weak to support the load and the metal there is rough and jagged.
Earl (former metallurgical engineering technician)
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Its a somewhat common failure for the 124 chassis from what I've seen in my area. If that joint starts making noise replace it asap.
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201 Ball Joint Pin Failure
Here is a photo of a 1 year old ball joint pin failure which luckily occurred during a parking maneuver. The rubber boot has been removed and the grease flushed out to try to determine the cause.
No rust, boot intact, well greased, no pre-failure noise. The cause: a crack of unknown origin that worked its way across the pin until it let go. The face of the fracture is slightly "peened" from pre-failure movement indicating that the failure process began ?? hours/days before the actual parting. Ball joint source: eBay. Lesson learned. Both sides replaced with Merc factory ball joints. Regards, bobf.
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If you look at the face of the failure using a strong magnifying glass or place it under a microscope you will see the origin (beginning) of the crack an in turn you will see the defect in the steel that caused the metal to fatigue at that point and begin to crack.
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Try to get a picture like this.
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Beautiful picture. Is that a threaded bolt? Can you see the origin? Imagine dropping a pebble at the very edge of a pond. The resulting circular pattern of waves is what the origin will look like only very minute partial circles.
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As you used to do, I do this stuff for a living. The picture is from a wheel bolt that snapped from a single event, no fatigue. This picture was before we improved our camera equipment. I couldn't find a good example of fatigue from my portfolio on the quick.
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Aaahhh OK. I could not figure out the type of failure because of the multiple planes and the out of focus portions of the rest of them. I figured the origin must be on one of the unfocused portions of the failure.
It would be neat if you could find an origin to show to the forum. Also you might mention that viewers should click on the small picture.
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How can one tell if they need their LCA bushings replaced? I need to replace my Outer tie rods and Shock absorbers in my 1997 E300d. The shop said these were bad but everthing else looked okay. I thought I would go out and purchase the best parts and replace them myself and then go back and have them to a four wheel alighnment on their new Hunter machine. THey were going to charge $820 to do all this plus alignment but was not sure what brand parts they installed. I could get Bilstein shocks for about $270 for all four. Im not sure what brand tie rod I should purchase. Any suggestions? Thanks
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Nasty, good job it didn't happen at speed eh.
Shame there isn't a boot over the joint to protect it better... cheers
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this happened to me in a public parking lot on the 3rd level.i was pulling out backwards with a hard turn to avoid the line of cars behind me.a loud bang and the left front wheel turned inward.i was able to get the car back into the parking.but it soon turned into a 2 hr ordeal getting the car out because the overhead clearance would not allow the tow truck in.we had to put the car on a shop jack and drive it.first up one level due to the design of the parking garage.and then down a steep spiral down ramp to the street.$200 in towing chgs later i had my 87 300tdt home.the ball had completely pulled out of the joint.after a review of the service records i received from the PO i discovered that 1 ball joint had been replaced several years earlier.i just shook my head.what whats that mechanic thinking at the time?
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Recycled
as a reminder of what can happen.
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