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nombmechanic 12-14-2008 12:48 AM

heater control issue
 
In my 90 SEL 360 if I put on the heat (not the auto setting) I get heat without the fan OK but when I put the control on auto, it sometimes blows only cold air. I have proper temp and everything cause it heats without it being on auto. Any suggestions

S-Class Guru 12-14-2008 07:47 PM

I assume that you turn the temp wheel all the way up, and get good heat?
Then, when you return it to approx 75 degrees, it randomly blows cool air?
I assume you mean 300SEl?

try a couple of things:

1. Check your monovalve in the heater line. Roll down the windows to cool the interior, and set the temp on auto heat at approx 80 degrees. Put a finger on the top of the monovalve (near the battery), and you should feel it click strongly about every 5 seconds. You can also actually grab the heater hose on the passenger side of the engine, and feel the monovalve surge every 5 seconds if it's working properly. these do randomly stick when old, and that shuts off the hot water. When you turn the temp wheel all the way Hot, the monovalve is switched full open and does not pulse. So, that may be your problem.

2. check to see if your in-cabin temp sensor fan is working. find the in-cabin sensor grill, next to the sunroof switch in the overhead console. There is a small fan that sucks air thru this grill to feed fresh cabin air to the in-cabin temp sensor. if the fan fails, the sensor can't detect proper cabin temp, and directs the system to do weird things. Take a small square piece of light paper towel or tissue paper, and press it up to the grill. If the paper is sucked up and stays, the suction fan is working. Cigar smoke or similar will function for this test also. The fan is way down below the glovebox above the right kick-panel. You gotta remove the kick-panel, knee pad, and glove box liner to get to it.

Good luck,
DG

tinypanzer 12-15-2008 06:57 PM

I recently fixed a similar problem by replacing the monovalve solenoid. I still could not "feel" it clicking over for some reason, but it definitely works now.


You may have to remove the bracket that holds the hood switch for the alarm system, which sits over the monovalve. It's just two phillips screws into the firewall.


The job was really easy. Just remember to open your coolant reservoir and squeeze the radiator hose once or twice to burp any pressure out of the system before removing the solenoid. That way, you won't lose any coolant.


-tp

S-Class Guru 12-17-2008 01:02 PM

Man, I'm snakebit.
Just after I replied to this thread my heater started to act up.
Okay in town, cold on the highway - kinda opposite of what one would expect. But, it was a torn diaphragm in the monovalve - repair kit $45, time = 10 minutes. You don't have to drain any coolant or anything; just move a couple things around to get to the lid, uncrew the 4 screws (don't drop them) and pull it out. push in the bottom plunger and you will instantly know if the rubber is torn.

DG

nombmechanic 12-20-2008 02:06 PM

heater fan issues with my 90 300 SEL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Class Guru (Post 2049482)
I assume that you turn the temp wheel all the way up, and get good heat?
Then, when you return it to approx 75 degrees, it randomly blows cool air?
I assume you mean 300SEl?

try a couple of things:

1. Check your monovalve in the heater line. Roll down the windows to cool the interior, and set the temp on auto heat at approx 80 degrees. Put a finger on the top of the monovalve (near the battery), and you should feel it click strongly about every 5 seconds. You can also actually grab the heater hose on the passenger side of the engine, and feel the monovalve surge every 5 seconds if it's working properly. these do randomly stick when old, and that shuts off the hot water. When you turn the temp wheel all the way Hot, the monovalve is switched full open and does not pulse. So, that may be your problem.

2. check to see if your in-cabin temp sensor fan is working. find the in-cabin sensor grill, next to the sunroof switch in the overhead console. There is a small fan that sucks air thru this grill to feed fresh cabin air to the in-cabin temp sensor. if the fan fails, the sensor can't detect proper cabin temp, and directs the system to do weird things. Take a small square piece of light paper towel or tissue paper, and press it up to the grill. If the paper is sucked up and stays, the suction fan is working. Cigar smoke or similar will function for this test also. The fan is way down below the glovebox above the right kick-panel. You gotta remove the kick-panel, knee pad, and glove box liner to get to it.

Good luck,
DG

monovalves works fine now thanks and yes it's a 300SEL

nombmechanic 12-20-2008 02:08 PM

heater fan issues with my "90 300SEL
 
works fine now that I replaced the monovalve thanks.


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