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How does the Idle Control Valve Work?
Can someone explain to me how this works exactly for the M103 motor?
Fighting an idle misfire. Is there a way to test it? I have unplugged it via the electrical cable and the misfire continued. Any other way to make sure it is functioning correctly? |
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How much current is your EHA and ICV drawing at idle? |
I would think that a misfire is either electrical (spark?) or a fuel issue. The idle control valve just varies the amount of air getting to the engine at idle to keep it at an optimal speed....
When my 300E was misfiring it was from fouled (non resistor) spark plugs. I put in a nice set of NGK resistor plugs and it has run awesome ever since. |
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The idle control valve works by letting air leak into the intake manifold in a controled manner or modulating it. The Idle Control processor controls this along with the ECU. You can easily tell if the ICV is working properly by unplugging it. If the idle speed increases, it's working. It might be a good idea to clean it.
The EHA on the fuel distributor modulates the fuel pressure between the upper and lower chamber if the FD, under control of the ECU. The O2 sensor tells the ECU just how much to modulate the EHA. The fuel pump relay has a processor inside to turn on the pump and activate the cold start valve. |
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But, on to your misfire problem. As pawoSD stated, your problem is more likely to be ignition related. Can you describe your misfire condition....is it a miss at idle that clears up when you accelerate? Of course the obvious things are: rotor, distributor cap, spark plugs/wires, ignition control module, etc. |
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New Coolant Temperature Sensor New Voltage Regulator New Alternator Injector's+Seals (previous owner + smoke tested) New Fuses Non-Resistor OEM Bosch H9DCO's New Bosch Ignition Wires (checked for arching as well) New Distributor Rotor + Cap + Housing New Fuel Filter New Breather Hoses Used Fuel Distributor New Ignition Coil Used Fuel Pressure Regulator New O2 sensor Used EHA Valve New Motor Mounts -- Head work done yesterday: New Head gasket, intake and exhaust gasket, front timing cover gasket. Head skimmed and pressure tested New Water pump. New Valve Guides + Seals -- Smoke tested for leaks -- Compression is 185psi across the cylinders Swapped Jetronic Brain /w used one Swapped Fuel Pump Relay /w used one Swapped Cold Start Valve /w used one Swapped EZL /w used one ^As you can see I'm not sure what is really left. I'm going to test fuel pressure next I guess. In bold above...but yes exactly what you said. It clears up on acceleration. I was in my dads old Buick Wagon the other day and I felt a misfire on acceleration for the first time -- Mine does not have this! Idle only. |
The ICV of an M102 (almost certinaly identical) has a 'zero' position (i.e. if you disconnect it) of slightly open. This means that if the wiring system fails then the idle control valve will be left slightly open ensuring your car idles ok if a little high. This information may help you diagnose.
I think that a little current to the ICV closes it up, but then applying more and more pushes it past that point and on to opening it right up. You can squeeze the pipes going into it - the idle will be caused to dip but the engine should respond by opening the ICV and the idle will raise up again. I had an idle-only misfire once on a 1986, it was due to the pipe going from cam cover to air cleaner coming loose. |
Okay so it realistically shouldn't cause a misfire, only an increase in RPM's if it was faulty, correct?
I have no vacuum leaks as I had the car smoke tested about 8 month ago, and last night sprayed a ton of carb cleaner everywhere and it had no effect on idle speed. I got a little gremlin somewhere... |
Have you ever tried swapping out the ignition control unit on the fender? Or the computers back by the battery? Perhaps one of those devices has a glitch thats causing an electrical irregularity....and thus a misfire.?
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Have you pulled your spark-plugs and compared them to look for one that is different than the others?
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You have certainly done a lot to your car. Your head gasket job was done very well with attention to detail.
Have you checked for any DTC codes? The next thing I would do is: 1. Test the fuel pressure 2. Measure the EHA Current 3. Test the Throttle Position Sensor 4. Test the Air Flow Potentiometer |
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I vote for an electrical irregularity. If I was you I'd have probably had a MB tech diagnose it at the dealer at this point though.... |
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FWIW, I have found these CIS cars will run with the ECU removed without misfiring. Throttle response will be a bit weak and cold running will suck, but it shouldn't have a single cylinder misfire or anything. May help you rule out certain problems that info? Good luck; bear in mind it could be something you thought you've checked! |
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How would I test the air flow potentiometer? In the M103, I know there is an electrical connector that goes to the pot, but what does that control? I thought there was no traditional potentiometer on this engine... Also does the M103 have a TPS? Quote:
That is always my fear...but if that part was replaced and it made zero difference I couldn't have got a part that was an exact replica of the misfire I experience...any change at all -- I would notice. Quote:
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