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BigRed0803 07-30-2009 08:00 AM

1997 Mercedes E320 "Display Defective"
 
My 1997 Mercedes E320 throws up a "Display Defective" message everytime I start the car. The "Display Defective" also seems to have a picture of what looks like the coolant symbol with it. I have replaced the coolant level sending unit in the bottom of the coolant reservior but that didn't fix anything. Any ideas on what my problem may be?

BigRed0803 07-30-2009 05:43 PM

Any ideas out there?

tinypanzer 07-30-2009 06:29 PM

Just a wild guess...... Perhaps your display is defective.

BigRed0803 07-30-2009 08:27 PM

Pretty solid guess for it to be wild.........if you want to be a clown join the circus.....TP

DieselAddict 07-30-2009 08:34 PM

Did you check the windshield washer reservoir fluid sensor? Some sensor must be disconnected or defective somewhere. That's what "display defective" means.

gmercoleza 07-31-2009 08:41 AM

I thought "display defective" means there is a pixel burned out on the screen somewhere? Mine does that too, but I just hit the "cancel" button and everything's back to normal. I don't get any image of a coolant reservoir or anything else. I believe my burned pixel is in an area of the screen that is seldom used.

DieselAddict 07-31-2009 03:12 PM

If the error doesn't come back after you cancel it, I wouldn't worry about it. It's the persistent ones that really indicate something wrong. I don't know if the system is so smart that it can detect a burned out pixel. I kind of doubt it. I know I get the "display defective" message when I unplug the windshield washer fluid level sensor, so I believe it's simply telling you that it will not be able to warn you of low fluids and maybe other things.

nhdoc 07-31-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselAddict (Post 2258514)
Did you check the windshield washer reservoir fluid sensor? Some sensor must be disconnected or defective somewhere. That's what "display defective" means.

Yeah, it is odd but read this:

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/electronics/8813-w210-display-defective-message.html

Avarec 07-31-2009 04:30 PM

or heck ill hook you up with mint 99 cluster w 64k miles on

tinypanzer 07-31-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRed0803 (Post 2258509)
Pretty solid guess for it to be wild.........if you want to be a clown join the circus.....TP

Nah, I'll pass. Rude as you are, I still don't want to take your job.


I said it was a wild guess, and I meant it.

TMAllison 07-31-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinypanzer (Post 2259331)
Nah, I'll pass. Rude as you are, I still don't want to take your job.


I said it was a wild guess, and I meant it.

Personally, I'd have guessed the same w/o using search.

Anyways, obviously I know little about defective displays, although I do know that not all years of displays are PNP and that many can't have their mileage wiped unless you are a car thief with phenomenal computer skills, or work at PA Speedo.

Avarec 08-01-2009 03:28 AM

well why dont you try buying a new w210 cluster? its gonna cost you arm and maybe leg

i am sure it can be fixed but if not, be a slime and replace it with lower miles, but make sure service stations wont jug down youre mileage, since they report it to carfax and all that bull manure

loubapache 08-01-2009 09:11 AM

One of the "Display Defective" messages means the coolant level sensor-washer fluid level sensor circuit is open (too high of a resistance). That is how Mercedes programmed it. It is not a defective display but rather a bad choice of words for the error message.

Since you have already replaced the coolant level sensor, now measure the resistance of the washer fluid level sensor. Just unplug the connector and use a multimeter to measure (with a full reservoir). It should be around 170 ohms. If it is much higher than that, replace the washer fluid level sensor.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1298824-display-defective-error-message.html#post3468758

xquse 05-30-2013 08:33 PM

Same problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRed0803 (Post 2257953)
My 1997 Mercedes E320 throws up a "Display Defective" message everytime I start the car. The "Display Defective" also seems to have a picture of what looks like the coolant symbol with it. I have replaced the coolant level sending unit in the bottom of the coolant reservior but that didn't fix anything. Any ideas on what my problem may be?

:cool:

jay_bob 05-31-2013 12:05 AM

This is a common problem in the W210s. They decided to save input points in the display computer by putting both the coolant sensor and the washer sensor in series. To allow the computer to tell which one sent the signal, there are series and shunt resistors of different values in each sensor. The right combination of resistances tells the computer which sensor is in alarm.

If the measured resistance is not one of the plausible values, it means that one of the sensors has likely gone open circuit or failed. The system posts "Display Defective" which is not the best choice of words.

The washer sensor is a 30 second job to change, the coolant is a little more difficult since you have to drain the system to empty the reservoir. Both sensors are less than $40 total.

I believe the washer sensor comes first in the chain since when this happened to me, I was able to just change the washer sensor and it fixed both errors. The washer sensor was open circuit. The coolant sensor is still on the shelf in my garage, I plan to swap it when I do my next coolant flush.


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