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gld1203 08-12-2009 09:26 PM

Has anyone paid for an engine transplant? I have a $3,000 quote for a m103 and am looking for an opinion on that. It's either that or buy a new Civic or Corolla and get $4,500 clunker cash for the 300ce. I'm thinking it's probably time to bail.

babymog 08-12-2009 09:32 PM

I would be sure of the diagnosis first, but yes, clunkering it would make more sense to me than paying for an engine replacement.

pawoSD 08-12-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by babymog (Post 2268848)
I would be sure of the diagnosis first, but yes, clunkering it would make more sense to me than paying for an engine replacement.

Well, if done by ones-self it could be completed for under $1000...including a good used engine....

babymog 08-12-2009 10:14 PM

Like the one in Dorr?

Wodnek 08-12-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by babymog (Post 2268894)
Like the one in Dorr?

Where are you located? I have a 300E parts car that you could get the engine cheaply from. 1990 M103.

You can use a long screwdriver with a plastic handle as a stethescope, Hold your ear on against the plastic handle and touch different places on the engine until you find where the ticking is the loudest.

See if the oil pan is simply dented in. If so, it could be taken off and hammered back, or go to a body shop and see if they would pull it out with a unispotter.

dpkreuze 08-13-2009 07:48 AM

Have you had the engine compression tested? A bent rod will have shortened the stroke. A low compression pressure in one cylinder may indicate a bent rod. Also the oil pan could be removed to inspect the rods if you are'nt convinced.

gld1203 08-13-2009 01:03 PM

Bent connecting rod appears to be the diagnosis. I have decided to have the original engine repaired rather than replacing it or clunkering the car. Cost will be ~1,600 - 1,800.

pawoSD 08-13-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by babymog (Post 2268894)
Like the one in Dorr?

Indeed.

pawoSD 08-13-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gld1203 (Post 2269295)
Bent connecting rod appears to be the diagnosis. I have decided to have the original engine repaired rather than replacing it or clunkering the car. Cost will be ~1,600 - 1,800.

For $1600-1800 you can get like three good used M103's.....unless the motor in your car has real low miles or has recently had work done (head rebuild etc...)....I'd have to say it'd be more cost effective to replace the motor.

In fact, you could probably buy a used engine, have the head rebuilt, and put it in the car....for that much $$.

Just sayin.....

tinypanzer 08-14-2009 10:02 PM

Man, I am really surprised that you were able to hydro-lock the motor with so little water, assuming the water actually caused this.

JimFreeh 08-16-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tinypanzer (Post 2270432)
Man, I am really surprised that you were able to hydro-lock the motor with so little water, assuming the water actually caused this.


Remember, the point of reference is his daughter.

As the father of three, I would not take any one of their explanations as gospel.....:)

Jim

gld1203 09-06-2009 12:45 PM

I got my car back from the shop on Friday. The #4 connecting rod was bent and the bottom of the piston was broken off from collision with the crank. These were replaced, and while the engine was apart I had additional work done:

- replaced timing chain and guides
- replaced oil pump chain guide
- replaced head gasket (obviously)
- replaced fan clutch bracket (bearing was bad)
- replaced fan clutch assembly
- replaced trans oil cooler hoses (they had been wet on the outside for a long time)
- replaced Nissens radiator with Behr (I bought it > 1 year ago and had never put it in)
- new crankshaft seals
- replaced all cooling hoses
- new fluids (obviously)
- new trans filter

The engine is dry and tight, and sounds and runs better and smoother than it ever has (at least since I've owned it for the past 4 years). I hope I'm through spending for a while, though.

I highly recommend Steve Zimmerman Technical Services in Mobile, AL. He uses genuine Mercedes parts, and was very meticulous and reasonable with labor charges. I stopped by his shop during the course of this repair and he pointed out the hone marks inside the cylinders, which he though was incredible for an engine with 161k miles, saying it looked like a 20k mile engine. I am the 3rd owner of this California car. Owners manual shows Mobil 1 was used when it was new. I have changed oil every 3k, but don't use synthetic.


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