Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-02-2009, 10:14 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW / Collin County Texas
Posts: 1,882
Suggestions for straightening radiator support please

A while back I encountered a very steep "dip" in a parking lot. I wasn't moving fast, but it made a loud scraping noise. No visible external damage, but I had the car up on the ramps for a tranny service last night, and it is very obvious the radiator support was pushed back along with the belly pan.

The belly pan itself is ripped, so I'll need a new one. The radiator support is about 2 inches further back on the driver's side, at least compared to the passenger side. Who knows, maybe the passenger side was pushed back a little bit too (though it doesn't seem so). I have already removed the radiator to replace the belt and tensioner, and the radiator did not want to slide out easily since everything is skewed.

Any suggestions for straightening it out? Like I said the radiator is already out, however the A/C condensor is still in there, so pounding is out of the question unless I crack the A/C system open (don't want to do that).

__________________
08 W251 R350
97 W210 E320
91 W124 300E
86 W126 560SEL
85 W126 380SE Silver
85 W126 380SE Cranberry
79 W123 250
78 W123 280E
75 W114 280
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-02-2009, 10:18 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Tucker, Ga USA
Posts: 12,153
A strong tree & a tie-down or come-a-long. Then maybe a heavy dead blow hammer.
__________________
MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES)
ASE Master Technician
Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times)
44 years foreign automotive repair
27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer)
MB technical information Specialist (15 years)
190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold)
1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold)
Retired Moderator
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-02-2009, 10:22 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW / Collin County Texas
Posts: 1,882
Thanks. I don't have ANY strong trees around here. I was thinking maybe a come-along and the tow hook of my wife's minivan???
__________________
08 W251 R350
97 W210 E320
91 W124 300E
86 W126 560SEL
85 W126 380SE Silver
85 W126 380SE Cranberry
79 W123 250
78 W123 280E
75 W114 280
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-02-2009, 12:30 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: California
Posts: 57
That will work As long as it clears the fan you will be ok...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-02-2009, 02:33 PM
mramay's Avatar
Mike R.
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 152
You have eight cars listed - which one did you damage? Is the AC R134 or R12?
__________________
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
FrankenBenz: '87 560SEC with an '02 cammed LS6 and custom 4L60E.
Bling: '87 560SEC, ported/polished, lowered
Lisa: '87 560SEL, lowered
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-02-2009, 03:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW / Collin County Texas
Posts: 1,882
This is the E320 with R134a. I wouldn't exactly call it damaged, more like "modified". After taking a closer look, it's not hard to see how the support could get bent. It's just stamped sheetmetal. I'm sure a nylon strap between it and the tow hook on my wife's minivan will easily straighten it.
__________________
08 W251 R350
97 W210 E320
91 W124 300E
86 W126 560SEL
85 W126 380SE Silver
85 W126 380SE Cranberry
79 W123 250
78 W123 280E
75 W114 280
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 590
Please post back how you do it. I've got the same "problem" with my father's 95 E300. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,263
Tie a strong cable to the support, and to the handle of a 3lb hammer. Then give it a few swings against the cable, while watching the support between each. It will easily move. You don't need a tree or come-along to bend it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-02-2009, 09:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,971
Quote:
Originally Posted by gmercoleza View Post
I was thinking maybe a come-along and the tow hook of my wife's minivan???
This is scaring me a bit. First of all consider that a cable under tension can spring back if it slips for "some" reason. Also consider that you cold damage the minivan in the process. Chains are better since they don't spring back much.
__________________
1998 C230 330,000 miles (currently dead of second failed EIS, yours will fail too, turning you into the dealer's personal human cash machine)
1988 F150 144,000 miles (leaks all the colors of the rainbow)
Previous stars: 1981 Brava 210,000 miles, 1978 128 150,000 miles, 1977 B200 Van 175,000 miles, 1972 Vega (great, if rusty, car), 1972 Celica, 1986.5 Supra
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-02-2009, 09:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,971
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt L View Post
Tie a strong cable to the support, and to the handle of a 3lb hammer. Then give it a few swings against the cable, while watching the support between each. It will easily move. You don't need a tree or come-along to bend it.
This seems very ingenious and a lot safer and easier! I will use this idea some day I am sure!
__________________
1998 C230 330,000 miles (currently dead of second failed EIS, yours will fail too, turning you into the dealer's personal human cash machine)
1988 F150 144,000 miles (leaks all the colors of the rainbow)
Previous stars: 1981 Brava 210,000 miles, 1978 128 150,000 miles, 1977 B200 Van 175,000 miles, 1972 Vega (great, if rusty, car), 1972 Celica, 1986.5 Supra
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-02-2009, 11:36 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW / Collin County Texas
Posts: 1,882
Notice in post #6 I switched gears and said I would use a nylon strap - the comealong breaking also scared me. For that same reason I wouldn't use a chain either (have seen them snap before). Looking at the support, it is thin stamped sheetmetal. I will seriously just wrap the strap around it and put the other end on the tow hook of the minivan. Seriously, there's no way I'm gonna damage that hook doing this. If anything, I might pull the support too far.

The hammer is out of the question for me, as the A/C condenser sits very close to it. I don't want to damage the condenser.

I'll report back when this is done...
__________________
08 W251 R350
97 W210 E320
91 W124 300E
86 W126 560SEL
85 W126 380SE Silver
85 W126 380SE Cranberry
79 W123 250
78 W123 280E
75 W114 280
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-03-2009, 05:59 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,627
YOu might be able to hit it from below. YOu might need to put a piece of wood inside the rad support to keep from collapsing it. All that sheet metal is pretty easy to move around with a big hammer but you have to be a bit careful not to move it too much. I wouldn't bother with the rope or come along....its too hard to control.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: DFW / Collin County Texas
Posts: 1,882
Update: I cut a piece of 2 x 3 and pounded downwards from above with a heavy log splitting hammer. Then I crawled underneath and pounded forward while again using a piece of wood. The support moved pretty easily; it only took about a half dozen blows and all was well. The belly pan is all ligned up again and screwed in, though the left portion of it has been torn off. I'll add that to my list of things to get...

__________________
08 W251 R350
97 W210 E320
91 W124 300E
86 W126 560SEL
85 W126 380SE Silver
85 W126 380SE Cranberry
79 W123 250
78 W123 280E
75 W114 280
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page