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d.delano 09-29-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GregoryV022 (Post 2304063)
i know, but whats the difference between it and what im running right now. performance wise and durability wise.

Common knowledge on this forum is to NOT use any old off the shelf coolant. You must use MB or Zerex G05 or the aluminum coolant parts and passageways will become pitted and corroded. These cars are special thusly they require special precautions. Adhering to these special requirements is the reason why some MBs last for 500k and others are junked at 150.

junqueyardjim 09-29-2009 12:37 PM

Not to bad here
 
The local Indy (that's Indianapolis) stealer is selling it for $15.00 dollars a bottle. Don't add tap water, get a gallon of distilled water at the Grocery for about $1.35.

mbzman 09-29-2009 12:41 PM

What colour should the Mercedes coolant be?

workerunit 09-29-2009 12:53 PM

I am curious, what is so different about the cast iron, aluminum and plastic used in a M/B compared to any other vehicle. Why do M/B vehicles require special coolant? Could it be the the corrosion that a previous poster mentioned be caused by the use of cooling system flush chemicals or improper coolant/water ratios? or differed cooling system maintenance or some sort of improper electrical charge in the cooling system due to a bad ground?

Really, I would like some real answers or links to real answers other than a pat "you can only use M/B coolant or XYZ coolant in a M/B".

Just curious........

pawoSD 09-29-2009 12:55 PM

MB coolant is a sort of clear/golden color. It protects all aluminum parts from wear, especially critical on the engine with aluminum heads! :eek:

Hirnbeiss 09-29-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by abe g (Post 2304159)
Using prestone (green) over 32 years. in my 77 450sl. Replaced one water pump in that time. (replace prestone every 5 years)This is an ongiing discussion,suggest that water content is critival factor. If local water is reasonably free of minerals, no problems.If heavy mineral content no antifreeze is fool proof. Just my 2 cents. Good luck all,Abe G

How much aluminum is there in your cast iron veteran?

gmercoleza 09-29-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by abe g (Post 2304159)
Using prestone (green) over 32 years. in my 77 450sl. Replaced one water pump in that time. (replace prestone every 5 years)This is an ongiing discussion,suggest that water content is critival factor. If local water is reasonably free of minerals, no problems.If heavy mineral content no antifreeze is fool proof. Just my 2 cents. Good luck all,Abe G

Um, the engine in your car is totally different compared to more modern ones. The newer ones use far more aluminum.

Also, there will always be someone who does fine without following the manufacturer's requirements. That doesn't necessarily mean those requirements are trivial.

Oldwolf 09-29-2009 02:34 PM

I found mine at NAPA for $10.

gmercoleza 09-29-2009 02:38 PM

I think I got mine at Pep Boys for about $11 or so; it was a couple years ago so I'm not positive. With that said, I'm about due and will be flushing the E320 again soon.

2 gals of Zerex might cost $25, and 2 gals of generic green coolant might cost $8. You're already saving on the labor by doing it yourself; is it really worth saving another $17 by using the "wrong" stuff?

gmercoleza 09-29-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2304192)
MB coolant is a sort of clear/golden color. It protects all aluminum parts from wear, especially critical on the engine with aluminum heads! :eek:

It is often described as "straw" colored.

gmercoleza 09-29-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gmercoleza (Post 2304245)
Um, the engine in your car is totally different compared to more modern ones. The newer ones use far more aluminum.

I just re-read this. I might be out of my element here, having never owned a vintage SL. It could be that your heads are indeed aluminum; I really don't know...

pawoSD 09-29-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gmercoleza (Post 2304259)
It is often described as "straw" colored.

First time I've heard it called that. :D :D

Oldwolf 09-29-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gmercoleza (Post 2304250)
You're already saving on the labor by doing it yourself; is it really worth saving another $17 .......

This is the philosophy I use to justify buying all the tools I have. :)

gmercoleza 09-29-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2304269)
First time I've heard it called that. :D :D

Just a few examples:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/236033-w203-c-230-k-coolant-replacement.html?highlight=straw+coolant

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/194280-thermostat-coolant-question.html?highlight=straw+coolant

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/188511-need-confirmation-m104-headgasket-issue.html?highlight=straw+coolant

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/134036-mysterious-disappearing-oil.html?highlight=straw+coolant

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/133451-shop-put-green-coolant-when-i-had-m-b-orange.html?highlight=straw+coolant

babymog 09-29-2009 05:47 PM

Mercedes Coolant
 
A valid question / request.

The first link is to a STAR article in PDF, a good read.

https://mbwholesaleparts.com/StarTuned/pdfs/AntiFreeDec04.pdf

The second to a coolant discussion that should probably be a DIY sticky:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/218844-coolant.html

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Originally Posted by workerunit (Post 2304188)
Really, I would like some real answers or links to real answers other than a pat "you can only use M/B coolant or XYZ coolant in a M/B"



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