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ps2cho 01-30-2010 06:14 PM

Which O2 sensor can be spliced in for M103?
 
I remember reading there is a mustang sensor or something that I can find locally at autozone that I can splice in for like $40 to make it work instead of paying $120+ for the one for my engine.

Anybody know the part # or model year for it?

I am dropping my exhaust for transmission removal so I figure I might as well replace it now.

Thanks,

Chas H 01-30-2010 07:15 PM

Any generic sensor can be spliced in, and just about every parts house can sell you one.

ps2cho 01-30-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H (Post 2394851)
Any generic sensor can be spliced in, and just about every parts house can sell you one.

They can't all be the same...Which one's/type specifically?

Chas H 01-30-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho (Post 2394856)
They can't all be the same...Which one's/type specifically?

The only difference is the electrical connector and wire length. The thread size and oxygen sensing part are the same for every sensor. The generic sensor will not have a connector.

cliffmac 01-30-2010 10:51 PM

Splicing
 
if you're taking the transmission out why not do the O2 thing right? Why try to splice a questionable part/result into a thousand dollar plus job just to save $50? That doesn't make sense to me...

ps2cho 01-30-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffmac (Post 2394979)
if you're taking the transmission out why not do the O2 thing right? Why try to splice a questionable part/result into a thousand dollar plus job just to save $50? That doesn't make sense to me...

Because I know people have done it before without any issues, so why not?
I'm pulling the tranny myself to save money...I just need to replace the main seal and put the K1 kit in...Most expensive item was the fluid...

Chas H 01-30-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cliffmac (Post 2394979)
if you're taking the transmission out why not do the O2 thing right? Why try to splice a questionable part/result into a thousand dollar plus job just to save $50? That doesn't make sense to me...

A generic sensor is available from Bosch, the company that made the original. Paying $50 for a connector doesn't make sense to me.

TimFreeh 01-31-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho (Post 2394856)
They can't all be the same...Which one's/type specifically?

There are at least three different types of O2 sensors used in cars today, and they are NOT interchangeable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor

I believe your car uses the standard zirconia sensor but make sure the person you buy the generic sensor is aware of the specific application. It's also a good idea to have a wiring diagram of the sensor and the wires in the car, I've done this job before and its been my experience that the wiring instructions supplied with the generic O2 sensor kits are not 100% correct. These kits also come with a 'crimp' type generic connector to integrate the old/new wiring harnesses - given the environment the O2 sensor lives in I would never consider using a crimp kit. Soldering is the only way to go here, if you are comfortable with basic car wiring there is no reason not to use the generic sensors but there are things that you have to pay attention to - and its certainly possible to make a mistake.

mak 01-31-2010 09:59 AM

i had replaced the original sensor with a generic Bosch unit ,
It was identical to the one i had originally with the three wires . these come inside to the foot-well area and spliced on at the original connector.
The white wire for the output data , the two remaining wires for the sensor heating element
mak
300se/89

Ferdman 01-31-2010 10:31 AM

ps2cho, Bosch Oxygen Sensor 13953 (with three wires, 2 white and 1 black, coming from the sensor to a round connector) for a 1990 Mustang GT fits a 1991 300CE with the 104 engine. Not sure if that same oxygen sensor will work for the 103 engine after splicing in the longer wires from your existing oxygen sensor. The Bosch oxygen sensor specific to a 1991 300CE has two separate connectors -- a 2-wire flat connector and a round connector.

Suggest you check the wiring configuration of your oxygen sensor to see if it has 3 wires. I know that the oxygen sensor for a 1995 E320 has 4 wires, so all 124 cars definitely don't use the same oxygen sensor.

Chas H 01-31-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferdman (Post 2395144)
ps2cho, Bosch Oxygen Sensor 13953 (with three wires, 2 white and 1 black, coming from the sensor to a round connector) for a 1990 Mustang GT fits a 1991 300CE with the 104 engine. Not sure if that same oxygen sensor will work for the 103 engine after splicing in the longer wires from your existing oxygen sensor. The Bosch oxygen sensor specific to a 1991 300CE has two separate connectors -- a 2-wire flat connector and a round connector.

Suggest you check the wiring configuration of your oxygen sensor to see if it has 3 wires. I know that the oxygen sensor for a 1995 E320 has 4 wires, so all 124 cars definitely don't use the same oxygen sensor.

You guys are making this so difficult. The parts stores will have a listing of which type sensor each car requires. The connector of the existing sensor can be inspected easily to verify the syle needed.
The correct sensor will likely fit dozens of cars, not just Benz and Mustang.

JamesDean 01-31-2010 12:18 PM

Bosch*Oxygen Sensor Part No.*13953
[90 mustang gt - 5.0L]

currently installed in my 93 190E m103 (3.0L)

$40, cut & splice.

JamesDean 01-31-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferdman (Post 2395144)
Suggest you check the wiring configuration of your oxygen sensor to see if it has 3 wires. I know that the oxygen sensor for a 1995 E320 has 4 wires, so all 124 cars definitely don't use the same oxygen sensor.


Ferdman, the reason your m104 has 3 wires compared to the 95 m104 is likely because early m104's used the CIS-E system as opposed to later m104 which went over to a newer control system.

ps2cho 01-31-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean (Post 2395201)
Bosch*Oxygen Sensor Part No.*13953
[90 mustang gt - 5.0L]

currently installed in my 93 190E m103 (3.0L)

$40, cut & splice.

Perfect that's what I was looking for :) Thanks!

I have replaced the O2 sensor before so I know the connections, I just wanted to make sure to splice in a KNOWN part # that works.

ps2cho 02-09-2010 12:57 PM

I was browsing around the sensors for the Mustang, and there is a Denso one for $27! I have no issues paying another $12 for the Bosch one, but would the Denso work just the same? I assume it should...?


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