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TMBRichter 02-25-2010 09:50 PM

420 SEL dies while driving
 
A really strange happening, every once in a while the car just dies when on the highway or going down the street. if you are on the highway and still have rpms you can turn the key off and then on and it takes off. if it stalls below 30 mph, you can put it in neutral and it will start. any ideas?

Randy 02-26-2010 08:32 AM

90% chance it's the crankshaft position sensor, that what happened to my car last year. Not too bad to replace and is not particularly expensive, either.
On the ignition module mounted on the driver's side fender well, there is a green cable; trace it back to the back side of the engine, near the top, and it is held on there with one small bolt. You sort of have to get to it by feel; I reached up from beneath, with the front of the car on small ramps, while laying behind the front tire. There is a plastic cover that snaps over the actual sensor. Good luck.

tinypanzer 02-26-2010 09:56 PM

Possible OVP relay issue too.. Have you noticed any dash lights such as ABS coming on?

TMBRichter 03-01-2010 09:58 AM

It has a new OVP and no lights on the dash come on, i am buying a new crankshaft position sensor. I will report back when installed.

TMBRichter 03-09-2010 05:06 PM

Well i put the new crank position sensor in and still have the same problem. Any other suggestions? Intermitent stuff is so frustrating.

TMBRichter 03-11-2010 05:13 AM

Does anyone have any more suggestions?

mak 03-11-2010 11:47 AM

Fuel pump relay .
i would rig up a light to the pump connection to detect a intermittant fault
mak

TMBRichter 03-11-2010 06:21 PM

Thanks, I will give it a try

joselu43 03-14-2010 06:53 PM

I have a similar problem, how do you do that? Could it be the fuel pump?

TMBRichter 03-30-2010 10:01 PM

Well i have been monitoring the situation as you know I have a 81 420SEL that just dies when driving, you restart the car and it takes right off again. I tried all of the suggestions so far and have changed the Jetronic control box, fuel pump relay, ovp relay, cap, rotor, plugs and now am at whits end.

Any more ideas out there?

cliffmac 03-30-2010 10:17 PM

Ignition Coil/Wire
 
Just change the ignition coil and wire to the distributor...that should fix it...

cliffmac 03-30-2010 10:21 PM

less than $200
 
that's classic broken core for bosch ignition coils. especially if you have been doing other work with associated components......you didn't mention the coil and that's the first thing i would think of...good luck

TMBRichter 03-31-2010 07:27 AM

Thanks, i'll give it a try

dennis.kde 04-01-2010 12:48 AM

I had the same problem and tried every thing. Found out I had picked up water in gas. put in some water remover Can't think of the brand and I have not had any trouble for the last year

Dennis

OM616 04-03-2010 01:59 AM

I have a 91 420 SEL and I am experiencing the dieing while driving, turn the key off and on and zoom. It has given me trouble at start up as well. It will fire, rev up and die. It tries to fire, so I am thinking there is spark, just not enough fuel, but I have not verified the spark during the no start.

I am definitely loosing the fuel pumps. I can turn the ignition to the run position when I am experiencing the problem and there is not sound from the pumps, or I can hear the relay chattering and the pumps cycling multiple times, (this leads me toward the ignition switch and computer, as the computer is responsible for cycling the Pumps when the key is turned to the run position).

My first thought is the relay is bad. Cycling the ignition cycles the fuel pump relay contacts. If they are fried, they may be making and braking contact.

I tried playing with the key while it died while driving and the engine was still spinning, it had no effect. I am hoping that the computer is not the issue.

Has anyone had any luck?


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