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francotirador 04-19-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnM. (Post 2703130)
Two or three years ago I had never heard of URO parts. None my parts suppliers carried their parts. Now it seems there is a lot of this URO crap everywhere. As if they are mass manufacturing the W124 catalog now. I recall going through a few fan bearing brackets in 08/09 and I was getting Febi/Bilstein for ~$109. Now I can only get a URO bracket for $90. :(

Even a few years ago, I was hearing about the chinese outsourcing of Febi/Bilstein/Meyle and questionable QC. URO is definitely a step below Febi/Bilstein/Meyle while their pricing is nearly identical, and nowhere even close to dealership OEM parts.


Have you ever had problems with a Febi fan bearing bracket on an M103? I purchased one to install that was supposedly manufactured in Germany. I read somewhere that Febi was an OE supplier for the bracket to Mercedes, but I don't know if that's true.

Does anyone know who the OEM for the M103 fan bearing bracket was? Has anyone had any problems with a Febi/Bilstein fan bearing bracket they installed new in an M103?

JohnM. 04-19-2011 06:43 PM

I had one Febi straight out of the box where the flange was pushed way back allowing the pulley to rub badly on the front of the engine. The replacement Febi has been fine so far, 50,000 miles/2 years or so.

I generally don't have many issues at all with Febi/Bilstein/Meyle stuff.

francotirador 04-19-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnM. (Post 2703152)
I had one Febi straight out of the box where the flange was pushed way back allowing the pulley to rub badly on the front of the engine. The replacement Febi has been fine so far, 50,000 miles/2 years or so.

I generally don't have many issues at all with Febi/Bilstein/Meyle stuff.

Thanks for the response.

That bearing bracket replacement is not something I want to do twice because of a defective and/or poor quality bracket. I normally bite the bullet and purchase OE Mercedes parts in cases like this. However, even my cost is $260 for an OE one from the dealer. The Febi bracket that I purchased cost half of that.

Has anyone else had any experience with the Febi bracket?

ps2cho 04-19-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by francotirador (Post 2703156)
Thanks for the response.

That bearing bracket replacement is not something I want to do twice because of a defective and/or poor quality bracket. I normally bite the bullet and purchase OE Mercedes parts in cases like this. However, even my cost is $260 for an OE one from the dealer. The Febi bracket that I purchased cost half of that.

Has anyone else had any experience with the Febi bracket?

I've had it in my 260E for about a year now, smooth, quiet no issues.

I've had good experience with Febi/Bilstein products so far.

Ivanerrol 04-20-2011 02:02 AM

I bought an APA (Chinese manufactured) water pump for one of my M103's. It doesn't seem tp pump enough water around at idle speeds - higher operating speeds is O.K. If changing the water pump wasn't such a P.I.T.A. I would be changing it out for a better brand.

lsmalley 04-20-2011 03:13 AM

I thought Bilstein was an OE manufacturer for MB? I think a few of my parts that are original say Bilstein on it, I've also seen Veritas. As for the Febi brand...are they merged or a subsidiary of Bilstein? I remember getting a part (can't remeber what), but it was yellow and red and it said "Febi/Bilstein" on it. I think a belt tensioner, but I'm not sure.


Also, I've had a few parts that I used from Uro parts, but no complaints yet. I'll keep you all posted.

lee polowczuk 04-20-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lsmalley (Post 2703420)
I thought Bilstein was an OE manufacturer for MB? I think a few of my parts that are original say Bilstein on it, I've also seen Veritas. As for the Febi brand...are they merged or a subsidiary of Bilstein? I remember getting a part (can't remeber what), but it was yellow and red and it said "Febi/Bilstein" on it. I think a belt tensioner, but I'm not sure.


Also, I've had a few parts that I used from Uro parts, but no complaints yet. I'll keep you all posted.

i tried to go back through my records and see if i had any uro parts..... i couldn't determine.... but i know i have avoided uro rubber parts...and i think my fan bracket is febi.. i know that is not uro... i bought the fan bracket about four years ago...

i know i have uro something..... but it wasn't for a critical part.....

the only "part" problem i had was that someone once sent me a fan clutch that was the wrong part..... they replaced it with the correct one.....other than that.... my replacement parts from various sources over the last 7 years have been very reliable....

i have never replaced a "replacement" part..... at least not yet.....

francotirador 04-20-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lee polowczuk (Post 2703476)
i tried to go back through my records and see if i had any uro parts..... i couldn't determine.... but i know i have avoided uro rubber parts...and i think my fan bracket is febi.. i know that is not uro... i bought the fan bracket about four years ago...

i know i have uro something..... but it wasn't for a critical part.....

the only "part" problem i had was that someone once sent me a fan clutch that was the wrong part..... they replaced it with the correct one.....other than that.... my replacement parts from various sources over the last 7 years have been very reliable....

i have never replaced a "replacement" part..... at least not yet.....

Hey Lee: Thanks for your post.

Do you know who manufactured the original fan bearing bracket that you replaced?

lee polowczuk 04-20-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by francotirador (Post 2703484)
Hey Lee: Thanks for your post.

Do you know who manufactured the original fan bearing bracket that you replaced?

hope , don't know it..... i am sure it was original to the car... it was for the 1989 300ce

whunter 04-20-2011 11:12 AM

FYI
 
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Originally Posted by URODan (Post 2510841)
Hi John,

My name is Daniel Seeman from URO Parts and I'd love to get some additional information about your difficulties so we can find out what is going on. Our Quality Control team inspected the part you purchased against a Genuine Mercedes fan bearing bracket and here's what we found.

Thanks to your post we did find one hole that was off by 0.8mm, but couldn't verify the other issues you mentioned. We'd love to get item back that you received to do further analysis and make sure it is ours. Please email or PM if you'd like to get a replacement.

Best regards,
Daniel Seeman
daniel@apaindustries.com

Here is the direct contact data for URO.

APA Industries, Inc.

2130 Ward Ave
Simi Valley CA, 93065
Phone: (805) 955-9699
Fax: (805) 955-9692
http://www.apaindustries.com/uro/

JohnM. 04-20-2011 12:40 PM

From the front page of that website. OH GOD.

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A.P.A. Industries, Inc. is now selling its products directly to Jaguar. After passing Jaguar's rigorous inspection process we have begun supplying products to Jaguar Classic in the UK. We are continuing to work with them to help increase the availability of spares for the classic models and keep these unique vehicles on the road.

John5788 04-20-2011 02:28 PM

this thread seems to have gotten attention lately.

after modifying the uro part to fit, I haven't had any problems with the bearing itself. But then again, it's only been about 7000 miles.

I still wouldn't buy it again though after the crazy fitment problems.

francotirador 04-20-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John5788 (Post 2703690)
this thread seems to have gotten attention lately.

after modifying the uro part to fit, I haven't had any problems with the bearing itself. But then again, it's only been about 7000 miles.

I still wouldn't buy it again though after the crazy fitment problems.

As you stated, seven thousand miles is obviously not much. If it were 70,000 miles that would be a different story. However, I still wouldn't do such a labor intensive job like that and install a URO part.

I'm concerned about installing a Febi part and I probably have no reason to be. My car only has 75k on the clock right now and the fan bearing bracket has given no symptoms of being near failing. I just like to do a lot of preventative maintenance, especially on parts that could leave me stranded and/or cause major damage.

francotirador 04-21-2011 04:20 PM

I received my new Febi fan bearing bracket today. The casting has nothing embossed in it at all. It just has "Febi Germany 11949" lasered into the top of it. I thought it was just stamped there, but the rep I talked to today said it was applied with a laser.

I called Febi because the part just seemed suspiciously devoid of any markings that would have been applied during the casting process. All other cast parts that I have seen have been embossed with the manufacturer and usually the country of manufacture.

The Febi rep told me they did not have their own foundry and sourced the cast part from another company. He said they then put the assembly together at their facility. In this case he said that facility was in Germany.

I asked him why the box and/or the part didn't mention the country of manufacture. Their boxes just read "Febi Germany." I have a number of their parts and none of the boxes say the country of manufacture. He stated that according to U.S. law there's supposed to be a label on the box which states "made in____." Well, just from my experience I can see someone is not following the law.

I also asked him about counterfeit Febi parts. He stated he has not had any problems at all with counterfeit parts here in the U.S.

hanno 04-21-2011 05:17 PM

US law states that the country of manufacture must be marked on the package or on the product (visible when purchased) so that the "ultimate consumer" knows where its from. The country of manufacture is where most of the cost is added, in this case "Febi Germany". It's not where all the components come from. I'd suspect the casting itself costs well under a dollar.


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