I didn't know it was possible to not surround yourself with your self? You sir are the guy with the pnp kit powered W201. And simply that.

Where as my 33 year old headlights put out an amazing amount of light, as well as have a sharp cutoff that doesn't blind on coming motorists. And my headlight have stock 55 watt halogen bulbs.

Do your homework. Any hid kit is a bad idea.

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1981 300TD 4 speed manual
Euro bumpers, zender valance and skirts, H&R springs, billy HD's, leveled sls, real AMG Pentas 16x8 et11, vdo boost/egt gauges intergrated into ash tray, eurolights, led 3rd brake light

Really? Odd since Philips is where I got my info in the first place!

http://www.lighting.philips.com/us_en/automotive/consumer_products/xenon.php?main=us_en_automotive&parent=79912999330&id=&lang=en

http://www.lighting.philips.com.hk/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1012969&app=car_&vp=ultimate%20light&va=ultimate%20light

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

From the applications tab on the second link you posted.

• "Original equipment suitable for direct replacement"

Pretty sure it says original equipment for direct replacement? And it doesnt say anything about being DOT approved.

Such a shame that some people just have to be right in every aspect of a debate....even when hard facts (and obvious links) are presented right before them. Probably would've done better on a debate team, rather than going above and beyond to prove someone wrong instead of just offering constructive criticism.....Anywho, this isn't some 16 year olds social network so I'll end it there. Just wanted to post these new pictures of my "ricer pnp HID kit" I hope the glare doesn't blind anyone

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And pretty sure it does not say "Hey, these kits are fake even though we have them on out site.".

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

Hope you did not put Euro lights on any of your cars!

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

You guys have posted images of light on the road. Interesting, but useless for comparison. I know its a bit of work, but I really would like to see the difference in beam pattern in a semi controlled environment.

Or if you have a spare HID kit I'll pay for shipping, and do a review

-J

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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

That is quite incredible light output, I'll hand it to you.

What are you using for the fog lights?

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2016 Monsoon Gray Audi Allroad - 21k
2008 Black Mercedes E350 4Matic Sport - 131k
2014 Jeep Wranger Unlimited Sahara - 62k
2003 Gray Mercedes ML350 - 122k

if u are referring to my photos, thanks. as for fog lights, I swapped my halogens out for H3 LED's. when I was having my "cheap kit" installed the guy said I could get one of two sets, with or without highbeams.The high beams were an extra $100, but he assured me I didn't need them and also said that I wouldn't need my fog lights. before I had my hid kit, I removed the yellow dome from my fog lights and I would use them in conjunction with my regular lights because the lighting was terrible and I needed extra light. since that is no longer an issue, I ditched the halogens for a more updated look. The LED's are more for novelty than anything.

And as stated before, I know in previous photos my lights looked bluish, but I am running the 8000k which my be right on the brink of the blue color spectrum for lighting, but it is such a crisp white, I love it. even when I am next to, say a new 750i, my lights hit the ground as an awesome white, while the 750, still has that slightly yellow tint to it.

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Well yellow like = more visibility. Hence the color of fog lights. Which is also why I am going 4.3k. Just a hint of yellow. Although Philips comes in 6k also. Maybe I will get a set of each just to test out.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

Are the phillips brand expensive? And do you need to do any modifications with ballasts or anything? Would they have projector retrofits for older cars? It would be interesting to see if you do get both to post side by side pictures of the 6000k and the 4300k. Because even as having the 8000k, I haven't noticed a really big difference in visibilty other than the fact that standing side by side with someone that has the 4300k, I notice the difference in color of mine being white and theirs having a slight yellow tint.

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1990 190E 3.0L

All I looked at was Philips H4. I think they come in very, very few bases. They are magnetic. So the light source is singular and a "shade" on a magnetic solenoid (is there any other?) moved out the way to provide the high beam. My concern is the shade. The stock one may have to come out making for a little more work.

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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles
1992 750il / 17k miles - project car

I have been working with HIDs, performing retrofits using OEM parts for approx
5 years.

any HID lighting not otherwise replacing an OEM part of the same model is not legal in the US.

HID drop in kits have never been made available by Philips or Osram, only direct
OEM replacement

the hot and cold spots on the photos posted by lsmalley approach some of the
worst I've seen outside of HID kits into Depos. rare is it, that you will ever see
OEM HID lighting with this degree of uneveness

OEM Kelvin ranged from 4-5kšK depending on D2R, D2S, or D1S, never higher

the color seen on OEM HIDs are as mike indicated, ie refraction off the top
edge of the cutoff plate. you will not see this effect from D2R reflectors

some folks have had success moderating the glare from HID kits by shimming
the bulb so that the focal point is as close to the halogen bulb's focal point
as possible. but when you view the beam against a wall, invariably you will
see some glare.....definitely more glare than OEM

what I hate is when I come upon an opposing car with poorly assembled HID
kits (most of them are)....on a dark road when I'm on touring on the motor-
cycle. I've been run off the road 2x due to the lack of calibration by such
discourteous drivers who's only thought is THEIR bright light in front of their
car.

here is a good example of proper HID retrofit. I used E55 projector.


here is one of the best I've seen. person used Stanley OEM projector

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Raymond, now those are some amazing photos with excellent lighting. Can't deny those thats for sure.

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1990 190E 3.0L