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M104.992 / 95E320 Timing Cover Seal Replacement Steps and Pics
M104.992 / 95E320 Timing Cover Seal Replacement Steps and Pics
This is what I did. Pictures with captions at the end. ONE: Remove Fan Shroud and Coolant Pipes Remove Fan Shroud Remove Front Cover Disconnect rubber coolant hose (screwdriver or 6mm socket for pipe clamps) Remove heater crossover pipe (10mm bolt) TWO: Remove Switchover Valve and Engine Hook Remove Switchover Valve (two 10mm bolts). Mark removed SOV electrical & vacuum connections with numbered tape for easy reassembly. Undo Air pump electrical connection and mark with numbered tape. Unbolt camshaft position sensor. Remove engine lift hook (two long 5mm Allen head bolts) next to the switchover valve THREE: Remove Fan Undo the three 5mm allen-head bolts that secure it to the clutch. Hold fan hub by hand to keep it from spinning when you loosen bolts. FOUR: Remove Valve Cover Remove air cleaner cover and crossover pipe. Remove Sparkplug cover Remove ignition coils and wires. Mark with numbered tape for easy reassembly. Remove wire harness where it attaches to valve cover. You will need to unbolt two connectors which will be obvious when you see them. One, in front, uses a 10mm bolt. The one in the rear uses a nut of the same size as coolant expansion tank mounting nuts. Unbolt and Remove Valve cover – on the left/passenger side of 104.992 engines there is a metal vacuum line that attaches to two valve cover bolts and runs from the EGR “saucer” to the SOV. Cover valve train with plastic and then a towel NOTE: Don’t lose the two half-moon gasket pieces that sit in the back of the head. FIVE: Remove Timing Cover Remove six 13mm bolts. The lower-left (passenger) bolt will not retract completely because the Top Guide/Idler Pulley is in the way. But that will not interfere with cover removal. Just make sure you do not lose the bolt when it slides out after the cover is off. NOTE: There are 3 long bolt bolts and 3 short bolts. The long bolts are Top Left (passenger), Top Right and Middle Right. Midway down the right side of the cover is a gap that you can insert a strong screwdriver into to gently pry it apart. That will open a gap on the top passenger side, where you can then also gently pry from. Cover will slide off – along with upper plastic chain rail (m104.992 engines). NOTE: It is immediately obvious why these covers leak in the specific location they do: 1)The engine slopes from right to left; 2) The left side of the cover is wider than the right, making it easier for oil to pool; 3) There is a substantial gap between the block and head on the left – and once it opens you get a sizable leak. Had MB engineers caught themselves they could have cut a v-shaped notch on the left (passenger) side of the head to drain oil from that area to prevent pooling, and probably eliminate the need for these reseals. I earnestly believe oil pooling is the issue since the front and right sides were bone dry. NOTE 2: The old seal will be in Perfect condition. You could probably reuse it if you wanted. SIX: Clean Mating Surfaces Clean the mating surfaces of the timing cover and head, and the groove the seal sits in. SEVEN: Insert New Seal and Reassemble If you have a 104.992 engine, and you are NOT removing the chain tensioner, you will not be able to reinstall the cover without rolling the seal. This is because the upper chain rail, when finagled back onto the cover and under the chain, puts strong downward force on the cover, which makes it impossible to slide the cover straight over the seal. You might try to "walk" it on -- left corner forward, right corner forward, and so on in little steps, but you will still roll it in the middle. Unless the seal is immobilized, you will not get the cover aligned properly, nor the top chain guide in place, now matter how hard you try. Note: You will be especially frustrated if you try putting plastic over the seal to keep it from rolling. All that will do is create a larger friction footprint and roll the seal more easily. That method only works for folks who let the chain go slack. What follows is my workaround, some aspects of which may be controversial. 1. Using sharp scissors and/or a razor blade, carefully shave the front part of the seal into a 30-45 degree bevel. 2. Put a very thin coat of Gorilla Glue on the bottom of the seal and press into channel. Let it cure overnight. Seal will be secured into place and immobilized. 3. Spread a thin film of oil or other lubricant top of the seal. 4. Dab sealant on ends of seal. Loctite 5970 is universally recommended. I, nonetheless, used Permatex Copper for its strength, flexibility, oil resistance and high heat tolerance. 5.) Position the cover in line with the guide pin(s) and bolt holes; and the upper chain rail. The latter is tricky since the top of the cover needs to be slid back and tilted back while the bottom is still sitting on the seals in order to get the two posts on the top of the cover into the appropriate holes on the chain guide while holding the guide, by hand, under the chain. This is much, much easier if you immobilize the seal. 6.) Begin inserting and tightening the bolts, bearing in mind that three are long and three are short. As you are tightening the bolts, stop frequently to shine a flashlight into cover compartment to make sure the seal is not being displaced. There should be a thin sliver of silver metal visible from end to end at the back of the seal. When the cover is fully secured there should be an uninterrupted green line at the front of the cover. Note: If you do the bevel and glue technique you will successfully reattach cover on the first attempt, without rolling the seal. EIGHT: Sealant Curing Allow a few hours – or overnight -- for sealant to cure. In that time, reinstall the items in steps 1-4 above. Would be a good time to also change spark plugs and replace valve cover seal. PICTURES I find it helpful to secure instructions to the car with magnets. A discarded floor mat protects the paint from the toolbox: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC1.jpg Getting started: Front cover off. Switchover Valve on left. Engine Lift Hook dead center: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC2.jpg SOV, Engine Hook, and Fan removed: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC3.jpg Use masking tape to label connectors, and their receptacles, for easy, error-free reassembly. http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC4.jpg Also helps to label ignition coils and wires for fast reassembly: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC5.jpg Valve cover off: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC6.jpg Protect valve train with plastic: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC8.jpg A towel keeps plastic from blowing away: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC9.jpg Timing cover off. Alignment (and tensioner??) pin on right chain rail. Note the gap on the left seal channel: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC10.jpg Closeup of gap. There is no solid material from the U-Seal to the left edge; just air. Is it any wonder these engines leak in this spot? http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC12.jpg Conversely, the end of the right-side channel hits solid metal No gap: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC13.jpg Cover off. Note upper chain rail at top and the two posts it slides onto: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC14.jpg New seal in place. The front ridge is your enemy. If the seal was flat/solid on top – or if the channel between the two ridges had a metal reinforcement -- it would not roll. If you think you can concurrently align the cover with the guide pin on the right AND slide the cover into the upper chain guide without rolling the seal, think again. http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC15.jpg Right side seal with dab of Permatex Copper http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC16.jpg Left side seal with bigger dab of Permatex copper. Sealant to the left if the seal is external and unnecessary but I put it there to more easily identify the leak point from outside: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC17.jpg Mating surfaces of cover with sealant: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC18.jpg Be careful with the top chain guide; I chipped some of the bottom of the lower left hole: http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC19.jpg New Seal -- Beveled. Compare with photo of untouched seal and you will see there was no significant loss of material on the forward/outside edge. (The rear/inside edge is what does the work and is fully intact.) There is a bit of tan-colored dried glue that will flake off on its own when the engine gets hot so I did not clean it off. The seal was completely immobilized and, with a bit of motor oil as a lubricant, the cover slid onto the seal, with a solid green line in front, on the first attempt. http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC20.jpg |
Also, I am certain there is a simpler, correct way to install the top chain rail. If someone would be kind enough to post that I (and others) would be grateful.
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Thanks for posting this. I thought I read that it is recommended to remove the timing chain tensioner and then re-insert it after the cover is back in place but your method worked.
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Pics are AWESOME! Thanks so much for contributing. Will help quite a few!
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The craziest part of this repair is that it was entirely unnecessary. The old seal was in perfect condition. Only the dab of sealant was gone from the left side gap between the block and head. This could have been remedied externally, without taking the engine apart. Look at the photo below where the pick is. That gap will still be there, and just as accessible, with the timing cover in place. If I had to do this job again I would simply clean and degrease that space thoroughly, inject in some sealant with a syringe-type applicator, pack in a bit more on the external juncture of the head and cover, and call it a day. That is why, in one of the above photos, I used a big gob of sealant on that side. Even if the dab at the end of the U-Seal wears away, oil must still get past the larger mass farther out. Considering how well Permatex Copper sticks to metal, and how impervious it is to oil, that will take some doing. http://www.cyber-valley.com/UG/TC21.jpg |
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After my remark about doing this job externally I have been giving it a lot of thought. I would appreciate any good feedback on what I am suggesting below.
Injecting sealant into the leaking timing cover/head gap from outside, and below the timing cover would accomplish precisely the same thing as dismantling the engine to put a dab of sealant on the end of the U-Seal. I would need a syringe and large-enough metal needle for precision, and to make sure I could get as deep into the gap as possible. A food seasoning/marinating syringe from any housewares store should facilitate that. Squeeze sealant (Permatex Copper or whatever suits you) into the syringe, attach the plunger and you are set. What I envision is removing the valve cover and inserting the needle through the gap from below/outside until I see the tip emerge near the U-Seal (or feel it bump up against the soft U-Seal). Then pump the syringe and slowly back it out as the sealant fills the gap. As long as the bonding surfaces are clean and grease-free the sealant will stick. (I have pieces of metal that Permatex Copper absolutely refuses to let go of.) I think this is a much more sensible way to do this repair. |
Eric, if I encounter a leaking upper timing chain cover on a 104 engine I will certainly try your recommended procedure to seal it externally before spending the time/effort of disassembly/reassembly. Great idea!
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The reason you had a problem with the upper guide is because the you didn't remove the chain tensioner on the pass side of the engine. With the tensioner removed you can roll the cam forward and the slack will allow removal of the upper guide. The left side guide pin is easily removed with one of the bolts you remove from the cover and a small 3/8 drive socket to use as a puller. It really does make the job easier. When I was a tech for MB we used to change these seals and head gaskets daily. Nice write-up.
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Jim, Thanks.
In the photos, I don't see a pass-side guide pin; just the one on the drivers side (right side in photo). I read descriptions of the process, including the ratcheting of the tensioner after reinstalling it, but it was not clear whether that applied to this specific engine since my layout did not match what I saw and read in the how-to's I relied on, so I did not try it. Although I chipped the upper guide's post hole a bit it does not appear significant. But, like dirt swept under a rug I know it is there and will likely replace it. Are the steps the same for my engine -- and what, exactly, does it look like? |
Could the expert confirm that the same procedure also applies to my engine M104.995? car is 1996 E320 but W210 instead of OP's W124
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The guide pin is on the left (Driver's side) the right side guide rail floats to take up tension as the timing chain stretches and the rails wear. It does have a guild rail pin similiar to the one on the left it is located at the bottom of the rail in the lower timing chain cover and does not need to be removed for this service. The tensioner is on the right (pass side). Not removing the tensioner when servicing the upper timing chain cover can cause premature failure of the timing chain or guide rails. When you removed the upper guide you run the risk of the tensioner further extending and putting excessive pressure on the chain/rails after reassembly. If your cams never moved you nothing to worry about, but if the exhaust cam rolled back the slack would be taken up in the chain and then when you forced the upper guide back in the chain would be over tightened. There really is no way of knowing if this happened until the guide rail cracks. For the price of the aluminum washer that you have to replace when you remoce the tensioner it's worth doing just to be safe.
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Thanks Jim!
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I am also having some oil leak in the front cover, and is looking to replace the U-seal. After reading Eric's DIY, I am thinking whether it is worthwhile to try the external method first, namely, filling the leakage point with sealant.
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kyericho, definitely try the external sealing method. The trick is to get the leak area completely clean so the sealant will adhere properly.
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Hey guys,
I am doing this for a 97 E320, same engine M104. i have this U seal and was wondering if i should let it set once i have everything in place. i am going to be using the MB sealant. if i put everything back on...can i start the car right up? or should i wait for the seal to set? |
The U gasket
Thanks , Jim. I had same leak on my.
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Timing Cover Leak External Fix
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Thanks to EricSilver, for a great tutorial.
This oil leak was really annoying me. I had oil leaking all down the side of the engine block, and was contemplating removing the cover and resealing it. I can confirm that after applying high temperature sealant to the corner of the timing cover as suggested. The oil leak has been completely fixed. I feel as though I should let you all know of the results. Here is a picture; it’s not pretty and quite difficult to get a descent picture but no leaks. Thanks again and I hope this helps someone else. Cheers |
Hello
I replaced mine recently, well the seal had a 2 cm crack. I replaced it with a brand new one, used silicon glue but it start leaking again, (didn't even last a day) I had to remove the cover again and found the seal is in pretty bad shape! it had a 5-6 cm crack or so. but it was firmly in its place...so what do you think? is it any point while putting cover and seal back together? If I knew I will be forced to remove all things 3 times, I would live with the leak as it was really negligible. |
For what it's worth, I just spoke with Curtis at Permatex and grilled him for info on different sealant options. He clarified that the Ultra Copper is designed for exhaust applications with extreme heat. Ultra Black is designed for applications where gaskets don't quite cover gaps due to poor machining on older Ford and Chevy engines. He confirmed that Ultra Grey is designed for applications like the tip of the front cover seal - high tensile strength, high vibration and flex tolerance. The MB clear RTV (002 989 45 20 10) seems to be harder and harder to come by and getting more expensive when it can be found. Hope this helps.
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plastic guides
I have 121,000 miles on my 94 M104 E320 engine, of which at least the latter 40k was while running only Mobile 1 full synthetic. I am about to change the upper timing cover gasket, is it recommended to also change all the plastic timing chain guides while I am in there, or is that premature or unnecessary?
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sure you can try sealing from outside..interesting. But properly done in the headgasket repair procedures...you can quite successuflly do the timing cover wihtout these measures..YOu just need to tilt the cover toward the engine which pinches the gasket at the near corners to the head..and lifts the far side over the ridge in the gasket..DO NOT install the guide rail pin until AFTER the cover is in place..and when its close enough to pop it under the centering pins on the cyl head..it will then move into place at the base gripping the gasket perfectly..Then you can install the guide rail pin and bolts..(I had to do repeated removals on my car and got pretty good at the RR ) Some guides install the guide rail pin prior to the timing cover and thats crazy..It comes out first, goes in AFTER..Mine doesnt leak a drop..Yes, a bit of sealant where indicated..very little on the mating surfaces of the metal-metal or none..
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Wish you were here 5 years ago, when I did that "repair." :)
There may be another, simpler possibility: There is a high-temperature version of POR-15 that is (or should be) impervious to oil. It should be theoretically possible to simply paint that onto the spot where the gap is and seal it for good. But that is just speculation. :thinking: Quote:
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I did the cyl head removal three times and finally got the system down..I see you were struggling with guide rail pin alighment and the tutorials often dont indicate it goes in AFTER you get the cover on..Easily drifted in with its tapered point allowing it to center into the guide rail..I was struggling with a bad vacuum modulator valve causing smoking and pulled the head thinking I messed up something when it was the VM all the while..But the gasket needed replaced anyway..so nothing lost.
Great job documenting and sharing all you did! |
Has a final decision been made on the best sealant material to use if you are only trying to fill the gap (i.e. not removing the cover)?
I'm planning to change my drive belt on my 94 E20 wagon soon and will a chance to access this area. I'm pretty sure I have the same leak. |
I would think anything heat resistant and sticky enough to stay attached to that small area will work just fine. I still like the idea of POR-15 High-Temp Paint in, and around, the gap.
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Just today successfully resealed the upper timing cover on my '95 E320. It's a fairly simple job except for the problem of the green seal wanting to roll over when the cover is replaced. Big problem. After many failed attempts to get the cover on, here is what finally worked. I cut a piece of flat, smooth plastic approximately 1.5" x 3" from some packaging material (it happened to be packaging for several small rolls of electrical tape). I later measured the thickness of the material at 0.5 mm. I installed the seal, lubed it and both sides of my shim with motor oil then started the cover into position. On my engine the seal always rolled in approximately the same spot, so before the bottom of the cover rubbed that spot I pushed the plastic shim in between the cover and the seal. I tapped the cover into place with a rubber mallet then pulled the shim out with a pair of pliers and the seal was seated correctly.
Very happy to have stumbled upon a solution as my C36 is leaking from the timing cover, too. |
M104.992 Engine Gaposis; Passenger-Side Timing-Chain Seal-Channel
First off, let me thank all who have so graciously posted here, incl. the thread starter, Eric Silver, et al.
I’m truly impressed by the time, dedication & pics some of you have posted and your willingness to share your DIY experiences. As a dinosaur, most of my input will likely be C&P; my cell phone lacks even a camera. That said, I try to be explicit and accurate whilst so doing. Someday this may change as I enter the 21st century. Eric, I think your trimming the prone-to curling channel gasket is a mistake; YMMV. That said, if it worked for you, so be it. But I think you may have overlooked something like pin-removal in your disassembly. Not that I have even attempted this fix yet. I must say, you did a stand up job on your post. After viewing your pain & others for hours on end, I need to see if my corner [Passenger-Side Timing-Chain Seal-Channel] is even leaking. If yes, it is significant or can I live with it. If I had my druthers I’d replace it all, even the head gasket, if needed, but I need to press my 1994 E320 into service ASAP. What tempts me is I’m just changing the plugs for the first time since April, 2012, & believe I need a new Valve-Cover gasket. Some oil was pooling at the base of some (like 2) of my plugs. Before you criticize my maintenance schedule, understand since April, 2012 to present, Jan. 2019, I’ve put on it a mere 14,000 miles, period. Bought it used w/ 104K, now getting all worn out @ 120K. I plan on keeping it till the dirt nap; then my wife can continue getting spoiled in it. I’ve always had a hard on for the M-B straight six. Having several old cars driven all the time, no one gets too many miles per annum. When my wife was driving to & fro with it to work, my beloved W124 - E320 went into Limp Mode; that’s what sent me down this rabbit hole, the infamous, biodegradable, Main Wiring Harness. Up till then it ran just fine, though I was well aware this original octopus would die soon, and I already have a newer used unit awaiting Install. But I digress, that’s another thread. My Q: Am I the only one here to ponder using an aluminum-epoxy like JB-Weld, externally, on the Gap that the brilliant Benz engineers forgot to fill? This is lieu of flexible silicone sealers. I’ve never used the product before, but bought some, as it apparently may work wonders on a clean surface, depending on needs. Am thinking the Gap could possibly be sprayed w/ CDC or any other brand of Brake Cleaner, if one can get the straw in there, then Filled w/ an aluminum-epoxy. Brake Cleaner gets used in a pinch to blow gunk out of pistols shooting cheap & dirty Russian patronen, & it will even blemish the older Tennifer-type finish on a Glock slide. I’m not sure what it MIGHT do to a rubber gasket though. I’d hate to spray & pray, then spring a leak, or aggravate one, assuming I’m leaking at all. Perhaps Electrical Contact Cleaner would suffice? In days of old, we cleaned a greasy block on the cheap w/ leaded gasoline & a paint brush. Any ideas? |
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