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stormyc88 03-29-2011 09:54 PM

300E Catalytic Converters
 
Hi all,

I've been searching around for new catalysts for the 300e, and I have two questions:

1. What is a good brand (aside from paying through the nose at the dealer)?

2. I have seen pictures of ones that have the two pre-cats on the headpipes and ones that don't. My car has them, but does it matter if I do away with them?

I'm going to be getting new stainless mufflers from timevalve, and since they no longer make the converter as well, I need to go somewhere else for that.

Thanks in advance for the help!!

-Chris

Hit Man X 03-29-2011 11:38 PM

Precats are for cold starts only. CIS is not very efficient, let alone on a cold start.

Just PM someone parting a 300E and see if they will sell the cat section. You need to be prepared to shell out ~$225 or more as that is the scrap value area for them. 'David Hendy' on the board is parting out a bunch of W124s.

Most aftermarket cats do not last very long and I find it odd your OE assembly died. How did you come to this conclusion? Did you have massive coolant/oil use for an extended period of time? Or did you simply fail emission testing?

alabbasi 03-29-2011 11:58 PM

Muffler should be able to install a universal cat, magnaflow is a good brand.

ps2cho 03-30-2011 12:00 AM

Just chop them they are not necessary. As long as the main cat is in good condition, you are fine. I passed the CA smog perfectly fine on my wagon with the precats gone and a new high flow Magnaflow main cat.

Jim_P 03-30-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormyc88 (Post 2689417)
Hi all,

I've been searching around for new catalysts for the 300e, and I have two questions:

1. What is a good brand (aside from paying through the nose at the dealer)?

2. I have seen pictures of ones that have the two pre-cats on the headpipes and ones that don't. My car has them, but does it matter if I do away with them?

I'm going to be getting new stainless mufflers from timevalve, and since they no longer make the converter as well, I need to go somewhere else for that.

Thanks in advance for the help!!

-Chris

Chris,
Just hollow them out if they are clogged as of Jan 2011 all pre ODBII (1996) models are emissions exempt in NY. They will still do a visual inspection to see they are present, but they did away with the Dyno emissions tests.

-Jim

stormyc88 03-30-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hit Man X (Post 2689492)
Precats are for cold starts only. CIS is not very efficient, let alone on a cold start.

Just PM someone parting a 300E and see if they will sell the cat section. You need to be prepared to shell out ~$225 or more as that is the scrap value area for them. 'David Hendy' on the board is parting out a bunch of W124s.

Most aftermarket cats do not last very long and I find it odd your OE assembly died. How did you come to this conclusion? Did you have massive coolant/oil use for an extended period of time? Or did you simply fail emission testing?

Firstly, thanks for the replies!

My original cats aren't plugged and I guess they still scrub the exhaust ok, but with brand new mufflers, I figured a new cat setup couldn't hurt, especially after 215k miles.

-Chris

stormyc88 03-30-2011 04:52 PM

By the way, how does one go about gutting their catalysts? I guess you have to cut it open and then weld it back together? I have no idea how to weld.

oldsinner111 03-30-2011 04:59 PM

cut pipe so you can use a long bar of steel to break up material.Becareful when using hammer.

JimFreeh 03-30-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 2689855)
cut pipe so you can use a long bar of steel to break up material.Becareful when using hammer.

Usually there is a flange connection close enough that you can drop the cat and break out the ceramic matrix with a bar. I use a piece of rebar, with one end ground to resemble a flat blade screwdriver. Chuck the cat up in a vise and carefully tap out the matrix.

Makes a nice faux cat.

Jim

JohnM. 03-30-2011 07:15 PM

If there is no reason to replace, keep the original cat. 180K on my original and still going strong, passing emissions, etc.

Hit Man X 03-30-2011 07:25 PM

I passed with 270k on the original cat in my 300SEL.

stormyc88 03-30-2011 10:33 PM

I guess I know what I can do with that old grounding rod I have:D
Thanks again everyone!

-Chris


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