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John5788 05-06-2011 06:45 PM

1993 300E, how to tell if M104 is 3.2 or 2.8?
 
Hello,

I'm thinking of picking up a 1993 300E and was wondering how to tell if its really a 2.8 or a 3.2 just by looking at the motor?

Does the russian VIN decoder or EPC tell me which motor the VIN is registered to?

deanyel 05-06-2011 08:00 PM

You can't really tell just looking at the motor, but if it has MB Tex rather than leather it's a 2.8. Leather could be either model. If it has no headlamp wipers it's a 2.8. But that's just for fun - the real way you tell is looking at the VIN - the 6th and 7th digits say either 28 or 32.

John5788 05-06-2011 08:03 PM

perfect explanation deanyel, thanks.

another question:

does a 1993 300E 3.2L ever come in astral silver color? I keep seeing a trend with the 93s where the blacks are all 3.2 and silvers are 2.8.

POS 05-06-2011 08:38 PM

Of course they did; color never had anything to do with engine choice with MBs. The VIN tells all, but most cars have a sticker under the hood (on radiator crossmember sometimes) that has the catalyst information and the engine information will be listed on there as well.

John5788 05-06-2011 08:39 PM

i guess they are just hard to find then.

Ivanerrol 05-06-2011 10:46 PM

2.8 litre VIN for M104 is 124-028
3.2 litre VIN for M104 is 124-092

Engine
2.8 = M104942
3.2 = M104922

Engine number is on the block lower front passenger side

JohnM. 05-06-2011 10:48 PM

Anyone know when the Russian VIN decoder site will be back (if ever?)....it was a pretty useful site...

deanyel 05-06-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivanerrol (Post 2713102)
2.8 litre VIN for M104 is 124-028
3.2 litre VIN for M104 is 124-092

Engine
2.8 = M104942
3.2 = M104922

Engine number is on the block lower front passenger side

Not bad, except for the mistakes. A 092 is a wagon. A 3.2 liter 124 sedan is a 032. A 2.8 liter engine is a 104942 but a 3.2 liter is a 104992. Our VINs in the U.S. in this era start with five letters, e.g. WDBEA, followed by a two number model designation, which in this case happens to reflect engine displacement - 28 and 32.

suginami 05-07-2011 10:54 AM

If the badge just reads 300E, then it is a 3.2.

The 2.8 liter cars were badged as 300E 2.8.

deanyel 05-07-2011 11:13 AM

If the badging says only "300E" then it's either a 3.2 or a 2.8 with the "2.8" emblem removed. I bought a new 2.8 in 1993 and the dealer actually asked me if I wanted the 2.8 emblem removed, and I said yes. At age 18 lots of them are missing by now.

biking4jesus 05-07-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanyel (Post 2713018)
You can't really tell just looking at the motor, but if it has MB Tex rather than leather it's a 2.8. Leather could be either model. If it has no headlamp wipers it's a 2.8. But that's just for fun - the real way you tell is looking at the VIN - the 6th and 7th digits say either 28 or 32.

i have a 93 2.8 with headlamp wipers...

POS 05-07-2011 01:38 PM

Russian VIN decoder:

http://www.auto-parts.spb.ru/cat/cats/m.mycat?cat=mb&client=dr2000

Enter the VIN, pick the country, and in the upper right corner you'll see a link to Data Card. A lot of the option codes will be blank, but you can still run the codes through the old decoder pages.

deanyel 05-07-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biking4jesus (Post 2713333)
i have a 93 2.8 with headlamp wipers...

Like leather the presence of headlight wipers is inconclusive. But the absence of headlight wipers is a 2.8.


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