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McLoffs 01-22-2002 02:13 PM

How stiff is stiff?
 
I'm trying to make a decision about shocks and springs. I have a '93 300E with about 110,000 miles on it, and it's time to do new shocks. The options I'm considering:

- Keep the stock springs and go with Bilstein comfort shocks
- Sportline springs with Bilstein shocks (sport, I assume)
- Eibach springs and Bilstein sport shocks

My question concerns what each of these will do to the ride; I've searched the forum and it seems the opinions vary pretty greatly. I want to tighten up the handling and am willing to sacrifice a bit of ride comfort but don't want it to ride too harshly. What would each of these options do?

Thanks for your help.

-Mike McLaughlin

Jim Anderson 01-22-2002 02:27 PM

How about stock springs and Bilstein sport shocks?

McLoffs 01-22-2002 02:54 PM

Thanks for reminding me; I forgot to put that in there as something I'm considering. I was leaning toward Sportline springs, though, for the lowering effect. Would changing the spring pads have the same effect?

pmizell 01-22-2002 04:44 PM

Yes, moving down a bump in spring pad size will accomplish the lowering.

I suggest you use stock springs with one bump lower spring pads, together with sport Bilsteins.

Or, you can do what I did on my '91 300 E and use comfort Bilstein and stock springs, go down a bump on spring pads and change to a wider and 5% less aspect ratio tire, i.e. from 195/65/15 tires to 205/60/15 -- wider and stiffer tire made a huge difference in handling.

I, however, have Sportline rims which are 7 inches in width as opposed to the 6.5 inch stock 300E rim, so not sure if you can accomplish this.

Good luck!

~Paul

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'91 300E, 207k miles

McLoffs 01-22-2002 05:28 PM

How much stiffer are the sport Bilsteins, though?

And I should mention I'm planning on upgrading to 16" wheels as soon as the tires on my 15" wheels wear out. :-)

mbdoc 01-22-2002 06:06 PM

IF you use lowered springs go with the SPORT shocks!
If not stay with HD or Comfort shocks.

McLoffs 01-23-2002 06:25 PM

OK, so it sounds like sticking with the stock springs is the way to go. Now I just have to decide whether to go with the HD or comfort shocks. How much stiffer of a ride will the HD shocks give?

Michael 01-23-2002 07:05 PM

It's not that it's much stiffer, it just cuts motion more quickly, much more controlled of a ride, especially at freeway speeds.

As to around town, it's indeed a slight bit more busy, but not objectionably so. If you want additional control of body roll and to aid high speed stability, then go HD. If these are not a priority, but ride quality is, go comfort-a new set hardly makes for a wallowy ride.


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