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NHAndy 10-06-2011 12:21 PM

1996 C280 CEL ... Help MBDOC... or anyone Please,
 
P0441 code, The new purge valve pulses when engine is warmed up and both black lines are attached. I've "blown" out the lines coming and going out of the purge valve.
There are no breaks in any of the vac lines coming or going to the switch-over valve under the w/w resevoir.
The Cel comes back on after about 20 miles of the code being cleared. What am I missing and what can I check next? I need to pass the state inspection yesterday.

mbdoc 10-06-2011 12:32 PM

Could be the MAP sensor under the reservoir, it monitors the vacuum changes & sends that info to the DM that registers the codes.

NHAndy 10-07-2011 11:32 AM

Bad MAP
 
would a shot MAP register a code?

NHAndy 11-03-2011 11:58 AM

Does the MAP sensor
 
have a vacuum line connected to it?

mbdoc 11-03-2011 12:46 PM

Yes, it does.
Electrical as well & made by Denso.

NHAndy 11-03-2011 06:48 PM

Thanks MBDOC,
 
How many vac lines should the switchover valve have connected to it?

mbdoc 11-04-2011 09:12 AM

2, If I remember correctly

NHAndy 11-05-2011 12:56 PM

Missing one vac line
 
There is one vac line missing in that case. I found one disconnected vac line and assumed it went to the FWD end of the switchover valve. when I pulled the old MAP sensor I noticed a small piece of broken hose attached to nipple on the bottom. I then pulled the vac line off the front of the switchover valve and attached it to bottom of the MAP sensor.
I am having difficulty deciphering the yellow diagram under the hood, the codes have me head scratching.
Where could I get the schematic for the vac line routeing between the purge valve, switchover valve and MAP sensor?

NHAndy 11-07-2011 05:14 PM

Made up a vac line from the top of the switch over valve to under the MAP sensor, still got the CEL after 10 miles.
Can anyone out there guide me to the correct vac line layout?


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