as we know there are 2 types of fan cages for cars with and without dust filters. Yes we know the fans are smaller.

The basic difference by eyeballing the motors on gsxr's website is that the later model blower motor has wiring pigtails to connect the wiring because the one fanwheel covers the area where the spade connectors are which the non-dust filter type larger fanwheel does not overlap.

Old style blower motors are available easily for about $100, but the later style are only available with fans and are about 300 or 400 bucks.

So would I be correct to assume that I can simply solder wires to the old style blower motor and install the fan wheels to make it a later style bosch blower setup with pigtail wiring connectors

Anyone willing to measure the dimensions of their motors.

old style part no. 0130111012
new style part no. 0130111034

both look exactly the same in pictures, except the old one has spade connectors for hooking up the wiring, while the new one has wires soldered to the same points and then routed under a clip to exit from the centre with spade connectors.

Im posting this because even after oiling the bushes with ATF the blower motor's side bushes wore out and the motor is floppy, noisy and lazy too.

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)

I ordered an older style Bosch motor from Fastlane last month for my 94 E420 w/filter and was assured it would work. This is part no. 0 130 111 012. I haven't dug into the job yet and I have the motor sitting right here on my desk. It is the spade-type connection and I'm not sure now, but I think I have the pigtail wires on the existing motor in my car too. Hopefully the motor is the same dimension as the newer, more expensive motor with the wires attached. Looks like I may have to do some soldering, but to save over $200 it is worth it. Anyone have the dimensions of the newer motor?

I did my best to eyeball this with a ruler. The dimensions of my 0 130 111 012 are as follows (see picture):

The total length from end of shaft to end of other shaft is 21.2 cm.

The length of the motor is 12.2 cm.

The diameter of the motor is 7.5 cm.

The distance from the motor to the end of each shaft (total length of shaft) on each end is 4.5 cm.

The diameter of the shaft is 7.7 mm

Please let us know what you find on this so I know what I'm in for before digging in.

Attached Files

Blower0130111012.pdf (219.0 KB, 209 views)

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1993 400E, 256,000 miles (totaled)
1994 E420, 200,000+ miles
1995 E420, 201,000 miles

If Phil said it will fit it surely will. He knows what he speaks of.

and yes your car would have the pigtail wiring connectors soldered to the motor to the posts you see a little below each spade connector, The spades connectors when fit will not allow the fan wheels to clear them as the dust filter type fans are smaller and wider as compared to the old style which were taller and wider.

So I believe 10 minutes of high temp soldering will do the trick here.

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)

So, the pigtails can be soldered on to the old motor. I'm wondering if the old motor is the same dimension as the newer one with the pigtails.

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1993 400E, 256,000 miles (totaled)
1994 E420, 200,000+ miles
1995 E420, 201,000 miles

Hey guys, I know this is an old thread, but did you ever figure out if the older style motor fits the filtered-cars with the pigtails soldered on and existing squirrel cages swapped over?

I have a 94 E320 and in desperation just ordered the Bosch 0 130 111 012 with hopes that I'll be able to make it work. Prices for the 034 are just ridiculous. Kent at ************** seems pretty adamant that the old motor won't fit the updated cars, but I decided to cross my fingers and take a chance. If y'all are still around and could let me know, I'd be much appreciative. Thanks!

Hey guys, I know this is an old thread, but did you ever figure out if the older style motor fits the filtered-cars with the pigtails soldered on and existing squirrel cages swapped over?

I have a 94 E320 and in desperation just ordered the Bosch 0 130 111 012 with hopes that I'll be able to make it work. Prices for the 034 are just ridiculous. Kent at ************** seems pretty adamant that the old motor won't fit the updated cars, but I decided to cross my fingers and take a chance. If y'all are still around and could let me know, I'd be much appreciative. Thanks!

I think the main difference is in the blower cages. My 93 400E doesn't have the in cabin filter but I tried to use a blower motor from what I believe was a 91 and it didn't fit. I was able to get one to fit out of another 93 300D I found in the junkyard.

I did eventually replace the motor - and yes it did fit, The pigtails needed to be soldered to the new motor and the spade connectors snipped off. Your average small iron wont work. I used a handheld butane torch with tip adapter.

The biggest pain was swapping the blower wheels over. The older style wheels are easier to work with because they are taller and have wider spacing between the spokes to fit a tool in there.

The later one has shorter and fatter blower wheels with wider spokes.

There is one more type of blower motor which I found and it was usually attributed with the E420 and E500 for some reason. It had the words BEHR and siemens engraved in it. I think I saw it on the benzworld site.

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)