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oldsinner111 07-31-2012 05:45 AM

1999 s320 starting problem sometimes
 
Yes my s320 maybe after 50 key on,will act funny.I have to insert key and hold in starting posistion for 10 seconds to start.After that no trouble till next 50 key on.
Been through 5 starters since November.Assuming it was starters.Could get a Bosch starter,they sent wrong starter.

Gilly 07-31-2012 07:32 AM

That still has the bladed type of key right, not EIS?

oldsinner111 07-31-2012 08:44 AM

smart key looks like a w126 key

RichardM98 07-31-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 2982996)
smart key looks like a w126 key

Probably smart key is failing. There is a small coil at the front edge of the circuit board in the key. If the key is dropped and you lose good connection, you get intermittent recognition by DAS. New smart keys seem to be running in the $200-$300 range.

oldsinner111 07-31-2012 08:54 AM

this key is 2 years old.How often to change batteries?

RichardM98 07-31-2012 10:01 AM

I change mine once a year but batteries only provide keyless access. They aren't involved in starting the car.

oldsinner111 07-31-2012 10:04 AM

will try cleaning ground to starter.I just hope its not the ignition switch.Lots of moola.

Gilly 07-31-2012 02:05 PM

A smart key looks generally like this, no blade goes in to the ignition, is this what you have really?

http://mbworld.org/forums/attachment...n-smartkey.jpg

Gilly 07-31-2012 02:08 PM

Because I thought all the 140s used a switchblade-style key, generally like this:
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/3/0...4679166_tp.jpg

oldsinner111 07-31-2012 02:15 PM

its a w140 key,the dealer parts guy called it a smart key,he said the car had to know the key to start

Gilly 07-31-2012 09:11 PM

Right, that's all part of DAS though. Only reason I brought it up is I think this has the cartridge style ignition switch, these are prone to failure. It would help to be able to see if you are getting a signal to the starter when it fails. Cheaper to test than keep buying starters.........

oldsinner111 08-01-2012 05:45 AM

I think that too.Do you replace ignition switch and lock?
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Gilly 08-01-2012 08:09 PM

If it is the style switch that I think it is, no, you don't need the lock. Compared to a lot of MB ignition switches it is rather easy to replace. Hard to get the underdash trim off, other than that not too bad. Still I'd recommend trying to test something, rather than replace parts. Same thing happens and then you're pissed at me.

oldsinner111 08-02-2012 05:47 AM

can't I put meter on it when it acts up.Put meter on solenoid? I have jumped the solenoid when car acted up.
Now I just hold 5,0r 6 sec.

glenmore 08-02-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardM98 (Post 2983002)
Probably smart key is failing. There is a small coil at the front edge of the circuit board in the key. If the key is dropped and you lose good connection, you get intermittent recognition by DAS. New smart keys seem to be running in the $200-$300 range.


My daughter has a failed Smartkey for her 1999 C280 and now has 2 new keys that still give her occasional start problems. I am going to open up the old key and see if there is anything obvious that I might be able to repair.

Anyone open up one of these keys? Do you just carefully pry it open?


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