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Raptelan 08-22-2012 11:26 PM

Broken transmission parking lock
 
The parking lock is broken on my latest purchase - a 1979 450SEL. While idling in Park after getting to work today, I noticed a periodic clank coming from the transmission area. Then I noticed I was rolling backwards.

How involved is fixing that? It seems like a simple thing and the transmission functions perfectly otherwise.

Fortunately the parking break is in fantastic shape - I'll bet the PO replaced it recently.

Stretch 08-23-2012 01:58 AM

This is a transmission out job so I'd make sure that the shifter linkage is working correctly first. I reckon you are more likely to have trouble with the shifter linkage than a part inside the transmission.

mbdoc 08-23-2012 08:16 AM

If the linkage is OK..
Then removal of the rear cover on the trans is required.
MOST likely not broken. But an alignment issue with the pawl.

JamesDean 08-23-2012 12:11 PM

Heres a picture of the pawl and associated gear in my 300D's 722.418:

http://i.imgur.com/pIVeIl.jpg

Raptelan 08-23-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDean (Post 2998023)
Heres a picture of the pawl and associated gear in my 300D's 722.418:

Not really sure what I'm looking for here - can you explain a little bit? I've never done anything with a transmission except for look at it blankly from underneath and think "yep, there's the transmission."

I notice in your signature a note about cruise control. Got any advice for one that seems completely dead (stalk doesn't seem to do anything when pushed in any direction)?

JamesDean 08-23-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptelan (Post 2998062)
Not really sure what I'm looking for here - can you explain a little bit? I've never done anything with a transmission except for look at it blankly from underneath and think "yep, there's the transmission."

I notice in your signature a note about cruise control. Got any advice for one that seems completely dead (stalk doesn't seem to do anything when pushed in any direction)?

This might help:
http://i.imgur.com/Rz9I1l.jpg

The pawl is engaged when you put the lever in to P. It locks into a notch on the parking gear (my term, not sure what actually is) The parking gear also has a worm gear on it that drives the speedometer cable (124,201,123).

I have some diagnostics you can run though, most of the time its the cruise control amplifier:
Diagnostics:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2949128-post5.html
How The System Works and Common Problems:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2996327-post14.html

mbdoc 08-23-2012 03:42 PM

The Parking Pawl on the 722.00_series trans is mounted just slightly different than shown.

But you must remove the rear cover to get at that problem part.
Will require a slotted socket for the rear flange & also a wide straight blade like a drag link socket for the governor spring cover.

Stretch 08-23-2012 04:15 PM

You can see a few pictures of a 722.1 transmission in this thread - this is the four speed version of your three speed 722.0

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/304903-722-118-automatic-transmission-rebuild-monster-diy.html

The parking mechanism is shown on the first page - though the pictures aren't really made for your problem!

I have read that people try and remove the nut on the output shaft of the transmission by engaging the transmission in park and then having a go at it. This might be a bit of problem if you need to do this. I reckon this kind of makes it a transmission out job as it'll be a bit of problem stopping the output shaft from turning when it is fitted to the car unless there's a way of stopping that shaft from turning with the transmission fitted to the vehicle...

...I don't know if it is possible - perhaps someone here has done it?

Anyway - nuts and covers and all the rest of it shouldn't be considered until you are sure that the linkage isn't working properly. Disconnect the shifter linkage at the transmission - turn the selector and check to see if the park pawl engages when it isn't connected to the rest of the linkage.

bcbens@embarqma 08-23-2012 08:59 PM

I have a 1971 250C that was diagnosed by a Mercedes mechanic with a broken pawl for the same symptoms you are experiencing. I replaced the Shifter to Transmission linkage bushings, one at each end of the rod, and fixed the problem. So..........make absolutely sure that the linkage is correctly adjusted.


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