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oldsinner111 01-03-2013 04:19 PM

idler replaced 3 months ago
 
I'm at 170,000 with my m104 I replaced idler pulley 9 month ago from Phil,the best parts.I have slipping belt noise on ocassion,last 5 to 10 seconds.may repeat when at idle.I know the adjuster can go bad,but its near water pump time, an maybe alternator?.Faster easyway to trouble shoot this one.In alway search forum first,could find no help.:confused:

oldsinner111 01-05-2013 10:47 AM

well tensioner is cheaper than a alternator so I'll go with it
I'll report later on it, and try Pelican parts

oldsinner111 01-08-2013 08:16 AM

Can youn stop fan at idle when engine is cold? Its hard to use a sethoscope with fan turning

engatwork 01-08-2013 01:23 PM

Remove belt and spin pulleys. See if one of them is loading belt up. Is compressor on or off when it happens?

glenmore 01-08-2013 01:25 PM

On M104, best thing to do is slacken the belt and spin all the pulleys.

What I usually did was loosen the P/S pulley enough to slip the belt off. I always hated to touch that belt tensioner. Look at it wrong and it would fail.

Just spin all the pulleys and make sure none are making noise. Non-OEM tensioners don't last very long

mbdoc 01-08-2013 01:56 PM

Most likely issue is the tensioner.

Of course do you have an OE quality belt as well?

Holmesuser01 01-08-2013 01:56 PM

Just went through this with my W201. Got a used tensioner pulley and it was worse that the OEM one, which was not my problem afterall. Went ahead and bought new from MB.

Removed the tensioner and inspected it. I've replaced it before, and the OEM one really was bad at the time.

This time, the chirping was from the alternator. I spun the shaft and it growled and gave resistance. A box store wanted $199 for a rebuilt unit. I bought new bearings for my unit, and a regulator, for $44, and did it myself. The hardest part was pressing the bearings on and off of the rotor. Had it back together in 30 minutes, installed on the car in an hour, and no chirping anymore. Still have my OEM unit after 300K. Proud of it.

oldsinner111 01-08-2013 02:04 PM

thanks for the tensioner warning

Holmesuser01 01-08-2013 02:17 PM

If you remove your tensioner, and find lots of cracks in the rubber that you will see on the non-operating side, chances are good that it's worn out.

MB must own patents on a certain kind of rubber. Their rubber parts cost more than anything. (I know... MB is just proud of their parts, and it costs money to keep rubber parts available for our 25+ year old cars!!)

glenmore 01-08-2013 03:51 PM

If we're talking about the tensioner on a 1999 S320, then that looks like the newer spring style and not the old rubber bushing style. That tensioner will probably last forever.

And if slackening the belt is anything like on my W202, then it's easy. No more lock bolt, no more adjusting rod, no more fragile rubber bushing.

Holmesuser01 01-08-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenmore (Post 3079879)
If we're talking about the tensioner on a 1999 S320, then that looks like the newer spring style and not the old rubber bushing style. That tensioner will probably last forever.

And if slackening the belt is anything like on my W202, then it's easy. No more lock bolt, no more adjusting rod, no more fragile rubber bushing.

You guys are lucky, I hope. Maybe one day these cars will get old enough for me to be able to aquire one---for now, I'll stay with a moldy oldie.

Best of luck with your squeal!

glenmore 01-08-2013 04:24 PM

There was a sea change with the W202. What I would call Japanification.

1) Electronic tranny.

2) Japan style AC with electronic controls, ice cold forever (so far untouched in my 2000 C280), and a low drag compressor that the engine barely feels.

3) Spring tensioner.

4) Lighter handling car.

oldsinner111 01-12-2013 05:17 AM

found the problem shiny pulley,on alternator,will rebult my alternator


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