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Old 09-19-2014, 10:31 AM
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As I've noticed that, I was wondering why people didn't just rent hub pullers and slide hammers from local chain stores to remove their hubs. I imagine that the hub pullers with center bolts would work alone by putting a plate or washer over the hub opening, so the bolt has something to push against.

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Yep the problem is indeed "one of reaction" (as in a reaction of a force)

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In fact, looking a dmorrison's write up, I was wondering if it would also be possible to put 5, instead of 2, long bolts into the hub and tighten them down incrementally against the parking brake shoes to push the hub up? I'd try it, but I'm not sure if those shoes would stand the stress. What do you think?

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If you log in and see this thread you'll also see a trick for removing the 4 point slotted nut in a real easy way. (Pictures for this are in a folder that is restricted - I don't know why I set it up that way - may be one day I'll change it)

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As for knocking the races out with a brass punch, if I'm not mistaken that's standard procedure for the front races, and it worked for me. So, I don't see why the rear races would be any different?
Bearing races indeed are OK to knock out with a punch so long as you don't try and go too far on one side at a time - the bore still needs to survive!

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I used an old brake rotor and some bolts from the hardware store as a slide hammer.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:26 AM
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I wish I had kept my old rotors. But it looks like dmorrison used his existing rotor. So, I guess that won't damage it?

If I do use that method, do you allow the rotor to slide up and down on the bolts, or do you tighten them down,and just pull on the rotor?
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Yep the problem is indeed "one of reaction" (as in a reaction of a force)

Something like this for example?


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Same idea, but I was thinking of trying it while the hub and flange were still on the car. Were you pushing against the parking brake shoes, or did you remove them?

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If you log in and see this thread you'll also see a trick for removing the 4 point slotted nut in a real easy way. (Pictures for this are in a folder that is restricted - I don't know why I set it up that way - may be one day I'll change it)
I suppose you could also use that technique with the slotted socket to avoid breaking its teeth, as some people did, especially because you'll need it to tighten the nut.
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Old 09-22-2014, 03:43 AM
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Same idea, but I was thinking of trying it while the hub and flange were still on the car. Were you pushing against the parking brake shoes, or did you remove them?



I suppose you could also use that technique with the slotted socket to avoid breaking its teeth, as some people did, especially because you'll need it to tighten the nut.
I removed the brake shoes this is pushing up against the heat / dust shield. It is quite likely that you will leave marks or damage it.

There's no way you will be able to hammer the slotted nut in place when tightening and get the torque to be correct - the tool is needed for assembly. However, in my opinion, it isn't worth risking damage to the special tool when you can easily remove the nut with a hammer and a punch.
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There's no way you will be able to hammer the slotted nut in place when tightening and get the torque to be correct - the tool is needed for assembly. However, in my opinion, it isn't worth risking damage to the special tool when you can easily remove the nut with a hammer and a punch.
Good point, Stretch. Thanks.

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