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Old 11-23-2014, 08:21 PM
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with all the info I'm gathering now. I'm not sure if pulley was ever in the right place to begin with. read my latest post. With gouged fan shroud, belts with no tread.Hmmm Not sure if this is a wp problem any more
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:27 PM
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Water Pump Gone Wild

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I'm trying to understand what the heck is going on too.

It sounds like the new pump bolts up to the engine but the pulley does not fit - and it does not line up with the existing "lines" in which the belts have to run.

First step =>

Compare the "heights" of the water pumps - does the old one stick out further from the block?

There are different pulley options out there - you could be suffering from a bit of a swap around
If this is the case and I do believe it may be pulley swap. 1st How will I know? Remember the engine has been replaced. 2nd If I find out this is true what are the steps I must do to resolve this issue?
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:50 PM
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Water Pump Gone Wild

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Those water pumps are supplied in two different lengths; as Stretch advises, put the two side by side.
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The problem is not logical at all.
Is there possibly an axial play and as you mount the old pump pushes the shaft outward?
It seems there is about an 1/8" clearance missing, too far out, I could be wrong with the distance.
Are the mounting flanges identical in thickness?
Was the new pump not turning or the old one?
Is the pump housing (forgive me for asking) in the correct position?
Is the pump perpenticular to the motor block?
Since the problem now also exists with the old pump, the lenght may be correct.
Now, this is far fetched, is there a shim inside the pulley?
I think there is some weird seating problem, if all dimensions are the same.
I'm going to try to answer all your questions as best I can.
*Both Pumps are turning. the after market...seemed to be a little on the wimpy side as far as weight...MB wp just seemed a little more beefier. the turn of the after market seemed smoother( could be because of bearings/a lot of use) MB not as smooth/harder to turn to me.
**the pumps are the same height/MB states that aftermarket or not wp should fit.
**wp appears to be perpendicular to block
** I did not notice a shim when I took the fan off and I did not notice a shim when I took the pulley off
***Not sure about the pump housing and if its in the right position.How can I tell?
Check my new post for more problems to this problem that may help you solve all my problems..Please
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:59 PM
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nice pic S. can you get me closer pics of the engine bay. V-beltA area . While its on my mind Can you or anybody tell me How to take off the V-belt B (Refrigerant compressor) please spare me loosen 5,6,7 ten 8 tight 5,6,7. I tried that. Then I prayed Then I showed that belt who whas the true mechanic...I cut it off. Now I gotta figure how to get a brand new one back on
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Old 11-23-2014, 09:09 PM
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With home brew swap I would guess it's the wrong pulley. They prob had a pile of pumps and pulleys in the garage and found one that worked.

Comparing the two pumps as stated will verify that. Checking your pulley against another car will verify the other.

Let us know what happened. I'm curious. Lol.
It's amazing the stuff you can come across. I spent forever trying to figure out my cables for my heater control valve, only to figure out its the wrong valve.

Wil those differences in engine numbers really effect the pump/pulley? I only ever look at the first 6. But I'm new.


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Lucas, MB had my vin and engine # and told me the engine that was in my car was not the original. but did tell me it would still work. I believe I still may have to do some more investigating on this. this is a really hard simple addition problem. old wp + new wp = a running car
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Old 11-23-2014, 09:15 PM
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the turn of the after market seemed smoother( could be because of bearings/a lot of use) MB not as smooth/harder to turn to me.
You are feeling seal drag, this can vary with a bit of lube / water on the seal faces. Not a really a good test for anything. Rough would indicate failing bearings.
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