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lyle_H 02-04-2016 08:11 AM

Decent shock absorbers
 
So im driving my 99 amg e55 and have recently had it tuned up, transmission flushed, and new tires along with alignment....during the inspection i asked my local indie to look at the shocks and found three leaking....

I would normally go with bilstein shocks but hes recommending oem monroe shocks....opinions please?

Lyle in texas:confused:

Ferdman 02-04-2016 09:39 AM

Lyle, stick with Bilstein shocks/struts. If you want to reproduce the original ride quality best to purchase replacement shocks/struts from a MB dealer because those shocks/struts will be manufactured to MB specifications; however, they will be significantly more expensive from the dealer. Recommend buying from a MB dealer online ... say MB of Cincinnati.

anziani 02-04-2016 10:56 AM

I agree with Ferdman. This is no place to go "cheap". Mercedes of Atlanta gives pricing so you might want to check them. But look at Pelican Parts at the top of the page. They usually give you a choice of 2-3 vendors and rate each vendor. And check with autohauaz(sp?) over in Arizona.
Anziani
'97 CL600 53K

PARSHOOT1 02-04-2016 06:52 PM

Besides Bilstein shocks, you can also use Sachs or sometimes listed as Sachs/Boge. Both will give you superior ride compared to Monroe. It would be interesting to know the reason why your local indie made that recommendation?

Just curious, what tires did you put on your e55?

lsmalley 02-04-2016 11:03 PM

OEM Monroe shocks??? Is Monroe the oem for MBZ? I thought it was Bilstein.

Skippy 02-05-2016 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lsmalley (Post 3568362)
OEM Monroe shocks??? Is Monroe the oem for MBZ? I thought it was Bilstein.

THIS!

I put some cheap Monroes on my '71 250 when the front shocks were blown, and they worked ok, but that was a car I didn't care much about. My 300D is rolling with the Bilsteins.

Zulfiqar 02-05-2016 12:06 PM

The OE bilstein struts will show some seepage from the working piston - I had that on new bilsteins and contacted them for this. Their answer was that this function is normal as the oil leak is to lubricate the seal.

The leak is extremely tiny, I mean you will see a damp top after a year or so - its not dribbling oil like a blown strut.

I hit the junkyard and swiped a set of bilsteins from a monte carlo for my chevy impala - same leakage signs but the struts are working great.

DieselPaul 02-05-2016 12:15 PM

Monroe IS the OEM for Mercedes on some newer cars. Newer than the cars most of the people on this forum mess with.

I had a 1999 E55 and took the front shocks off, they are Bilstein. Monroe is NOT the OEM for a 1999 E55 AMG. Get Bilsteins if you want it to handle like an AMG. Really nothing wrong with Sachs/Boge or even with Monroes. But your car was built with Bilsteins.

lsmalley 02-06-2016 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselPaul (Post 3568449)
Monroe IS the OEM for Mercedes on some newer cars. Newer than the cars most of the people on this forum mess with.

I had a 1999 E55 and took the front shocks off, they are Bilstein. Monroe is NOT the OEM for a 1999 E55 AMG. Get Bilsteins if you want it to handle like an AMG. Really nothing wrong with Sachs/Boge or even with Monroes. But your car was built with Bilsteins.

Anyone know why MBZ went with Monroe? I don't know about the quality of Monroe products, but it seems like it is readily available at some local auto stores vs Bilsteins, which seem to only be exclusive to a select places. My first thought is that its something to cut costs for MBZ. I mean, I've seen a W218 with a "donut" as well as a w211. I know the older MBZ came with full size spares. I also know that there really wasn't much of a focus on "costs" back in those days either whereas now everyone wants to tend to cut costs and maximize profit.

Hirnbeiss 02-06-2016 10:14 AM

Monroe is a subsidiary of Tenneco, a huge international automotive supplier.

Bilstein belongs to ThyssenKrupp (since '05)

Sachs-Boge belongs to ZF (also since around that time).

It's a tough world for automakers who need to meet the price demands of increasingly disloyal consumers ("I think I'll buy a Kia today. It's the same as an MB, right?")

babymog 02-06-2016 01:24 PM

Cost reductions ruled the roost in Mercedes-Benz starting with the W201 & W210, and also in the body/interior development of the ML.

Welcome to the new regime, and how car companies cut costs in the '90s (even quality car companies).

vince 02-07-2016 07:34 AM

The shocks for the AMG cars have unique characteristics compared to the "normal" cars. Frankly, for that car I would go dealer only (in person or online). It is true that the original shocks may leak a bit over time (and I believe they are Bilsteins on the W210 E55) and, according the Bilstein, it is not cause for replacement.

Stretch 02-07-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymog (Post 3568689)
Cost reductions ruled the roost in Mercedes-Benz starting with the W201 & W210, and also in the body/interior development of the ML.

Welcome to the new regime, and how car companies cut costs in the '90s (even quality car companies).

Arguably after the costs of developing the W201 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W201#Background) the accountants started to take over

babymog 02-07-2016 04:55 PM

Yep, meant W202. Getting old I guess.

Charlie Foxtrot 02-07-2016 06:13 PM

The Bilsteins are a great product & priced accordingly. On the other hand Monroe (Tenneco) & Gabriel (now merged w/Bendix) have been around along time & make quality products. The fact is that Gabriel invented the car shock absorber. A cheap NEW shock is better than a blown shock. Get what you can afford (I'd put the Bil's in an AMG, but high end Monroes & Gabes will work).

As for the Kia vis a vis MB buying strategy, be careful. My friend who has been a life long (over 60 years) MB lover, driver and collector, rented, then bought a new Hyundia 12 months ago (it was winter & the prime benz was in the shop)...it just rolled over 60,000 miles last week (he averages 5k a month, not bad for 85 years young). He's thinking about selling his stable of 300SD daily drivers. (yeah, I know - its heresy, but I figure its all for the best. He hassles the dealer now, not me. When he pulls the sell trigger, I'll post 'em here.)


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