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85 DSEL 11-21-2018 07:04 AM

M103 Sensors
 
Trying to sort out the sensors that are located on top of the head near the valve cover. What are each of these and their respective function?

One sends signal for the dash temp gauge, another monitors coolant temp, but what each of them does I am not certain. Any clarification offered will be appreciated [emoji846]

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Hit Man X 11-21-2018 10:50 AM

Front by the oil port is some thermo vacuum switch. It opens or closes after a certain temp. You would have to trace the lines to see where they run, maybe the evaporative emissions stuff.

Single pole is the sensor for gauge cluster.

The two pole by the breather I think is the aux fan trigger.

Rear should be for the ECU.



Been a while since I have been up close with an early M103 layout

Rick76 11-21-2018 12:30 PM

The one closest to the firewall is a dual thermistor with the case as the common ground. One temperature sensor is for the ECU and the other goes to the ignition module.

Later models used a 4 pin sensor that had 2 ground wires so it did not depend on the case making a good ground with the head.

85 DSEL 11-21-2018 01:39 PM

Thanks for your input!


Any chance that one of these has a direct affect on when the climate control *should* begin functioning after it has sat overnight? I'm trying to figure out *why* the climate control sometimes starts 'blowing' as soon as I start it up to pull out of the garage and other times not....thinking it could be a coolant temp sensor on the block. Could be wrong - probably am :rolleyes:


Dale

Rick76 11-21-2018 05:45 PM

The one with the blue tape on the wire is for the climate control.

Resistance values as of 09/87:

5.0 - 8.0 k ohm @ 20 degree C
900 - 1800 ohm @ 60 degree C
460 - 650 ohm @ 85 degree C
300 - 400 ohm @ 100 degree C

You should be able to pull codes from pin 7 of the diagnostic connector near the battery.

85 DSEL 11-21-2018 09:45 PM

M103 Sensors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick76 (Post 3863922)
The one with the blue tape on the wire is for the climate control.



Resistance values as of 09/87:



5.0 - 8.0 k ohm @ 20 degree C

900 - 1800 ohm @ 60 degree C

460 - 650 ohm @ 85 degree C

300 - 400 ohm @ 100 degree C



You should be able to pull codes from pin 7 of the diagnostic connector near the battery.



Thanks Rick for this info. I'll need to dig out my tester I made several years ago and relearn how to set it up!

A *dumb* question: will I need to remove the sensor from the head to test or can it be tested in place? I'm guessing in place...[emoji58]

Dale

Rick76 11-22-2018 03:35 AM

Just unplug it and check with an ohmmeter between the 2 pins.
Also check to ground, which should be infinite resistance.


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