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99 S500 m119 timing chain job
Hello,
Recently my timing chain jumped on my car and broke the guides. Now I have checked the compression in all cylinders and it is 160-170. So I believe the valves should be ok. I am going to order the febi timing chain kit and replace all of those parts. What else should I replace? The oilers are good. I guess I will have to remove the oil pan and clean all the debris out of there. so hopefully that seals up again. Valve cover gaskets? |
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Also does anyone know if the febi timing chain kit comes with the upper chain guide gaskets?
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We've done this job more than a few times. We buy all the parts separately, so i'm not sure what comes with the kit, but after seeing so many febi chain tensioners fail, I would definitely go with OE on that.
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i wouldn't do that job with febi parts, oe only. never had a 119 jump time. i know if a 117 jumped 1 to 4 teeth, valves are ok. any more and the d/s has 4 bent. i'd pull the valve covers and make sure. and i sure as hell would not have tried a compression test before doing a new chain, etc. very lucky.
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lol, I drove it 30 miles the compression test wasn't going to change anything. Paul, do I have to replace the tensioner? What guides will I be replacing from the top side of the engine? I will price the parts separate and see if it makes sense to do it that way. Do you usually replace those gaskets I was talking about?
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always replace the tensioner, they get weak. always replace all the guides, they get brittle with age. once they get to root beer brown, it's time. you have to pull the covers off, so valve cover gaskets, also.
oe chain, oe tensioner, oe or goetze gaskets and the febi guides will do fine. the non-oe stuff i mention oe for is not worth it. had a febi tensioner fail on a 117 and luckily caught it in time. too tough a job to do again. good luck, chuck. |
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I'm only doing the upper guides. I'm not pulling the front cover off. So I just need the guides I can do up there. The Victor gaskets ok?
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no on victor.
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Here's all the parts we replace on that job. We go OE on the tensioner and valve cover gaskets. I don't know what the deal was, but about five years ago we started getting tons of come backs for leaky valve cover gaskets that weren't OE. Disregard the Uro brands listed. I would do all the oilers tubes if they're the original plastic or update to the aluminum ones. This isn't an easy job. very time consuming. You'll need the tool to mount near the cam gears to roll the new chain in.
Qty. Req: timing chain 0039974494 $109.58 list: $510.00 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Connector 1179901578 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Connector Qty. Req: $1.80 list: $2.20 core: $0.0 4 Reinz Engine Valve Cover Gasket Set 1190102330 Engine Valve Cover Gasket Set Qty. Req: $21.82 list: $37.00 core: $0.0 1 Reinz Engine Valve Cover Gasket Set 1190102430 Engine Valve Cover Gasket Set Qty. Req: $21.82 list: $37.00 core: $0.0 1 CRP Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190160181 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $10.84 list: $20.00 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190500216 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $15.87 list: $19.50 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190500316 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $16.23 list: $22.00 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190500416 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $97.96 list: $122.00 core: $0.0 1 Engine Timing Chain Tensioner 1190501711A Engine Timing Chain Tensioner Qty. Req: $124.53 list: $378.00 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190520916 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $10.58 list: $14.50 core: $0.0 2 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190521116 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $10.18 list: $14.50 core: $0.0 2 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190521216 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $11.73 list: $14.50 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Timing Chain Guide 1190521316 Engine Timing Chain Guide Qty. Req: $52.43 list: $64.00 core: $0.0 1 Meyle Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190901982 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $19.82 list: $49.51 core: $0.0 1 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Connector 1190940312 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Connector Qty. Req: $7.10 list: $14.50 core: $0.0 2 CRP Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190942882 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $19.88 list: $40.00 core: $0.0 1 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190943182 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $9.30 list: $28.50 core: $0.0 1 Meyle Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190944082 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $7.81 list: $20.01 core: $0.0 1 Meyle Engine Crankcase Breather Hose 1190947782MY Engine Crankcase Breather Hose Qty. Req: $5.81 list: $16.50 core: $0.0 1 Genuine Engine Camshaft Oiler Kit 1191800266 Engine Camshaft Oiler Kit Qty. Req: $19.05 list: $26.00 core: $0.0 16 Last edited by paul roberts; 04-24-2019 at 10:50 AM. |
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Paul where did you get those prices from?
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imc on the bottom of the page. wholesale only to the trade.
it WAS on the bottom of the page. |
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I finally have all the parts and want to tackle the job, but I need some instructions. I'm not sure where to start.
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Valve covers.. remove intake and exhaust.
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Lol way past there. I can't find the tensioner and not sure if I can cut the chain and start doing the guides or when I should pin the cams
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Take note of cam positions, start at tdc 1,put a socket at spot where intake cam at driver's side was,have the chain roll over the socket, remove all 4 cams, that way you cant bend valves, cut the chain link , connect old chain to new, with a helper. Crank out old chain, untill center of right side valve cover, remove old chain connect new chain, install cams after turning crank back to tdc, start there and assemble driver's side first ,end with exhaust cam then tensioner last, more details, but in a nutshell thats the basics
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