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Diseasel300 05-11-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by christuna (Post 4165119)
Leaner than it should be will result in lower combustion temp = less prone to knock

Again these engines run at the hottest mixture.

You're clearly the expert here. Enjoy your thread. Some hands-on experience in engine tuning might help fill in your knowledge gaps in the future. I have better things to do with my time than argue with an armchair expert.

Usaguy 05-11-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Diseasel300 (Post 4165125)
You're clearly the expert here. Enjoy your thread. Some hands-on experience in engine tuning might help fill in your knowledge gaps in the future. I have better things to do with my time than argue with an armchair expert.

Fine.

speednjay 05-11-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by christuna (Post 4165112)
I think that the temp spikes might be causing these codes because the ignition module retards the timing depending on the engine temperature. Even the old ezl's do that. A good fan clutch will keep your engine temp at 87c in a 90f traffic and will disengage once you get up to speed.



It's a myth that running lean = running hot.

I don't think that a vacuum leak is contributing to a possible knocking condition and here's why:

These cars run at the hottest mixture setting from the factory (which is 14.7 or 0.068 fuel air ratio on the graph) anything leaner or richer than that runs cooler.

https://res.cloudinary.com/engtips/i...c/EGTGraph.jpg

Left side is lean and the right side of this graph is rich.

The reason why they run at the hottest setting is because of emissions and fuel economy. That's where they try to keep the narrowband o2 that the w124 has.

If you have a modified engine you want it to run rich but you don't want it to get to 14.7 while under heavy load because that's the hottest mixture. Leaner than that is cooler.

I have 3 identical w124s that all have fluctuating temps and this is the only one with problems. Ive changed and swapped out so many parts to figure this out. The ecu is the only thing I haven’t touched yet.


Ok so too the plugs out and they look spotless. Almost like bran new. They should have about 5k miles on them. Sprayed some brake cleaner around the intake and vac lines, no changes in engine speed. I reset the codes again

speednjay 05-13-2021 08:19 AM

Would the egas module cause these issues ?


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