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Old 05-19-2021, 01:25 PM
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HR Springs Backordered - Eibach Pro? or Wait.

Hi - I ordered some HR springs from someone who said they had a set left in stock, now it looks like that isn't the case. The only other set of springs I can find are the eibach pro springs, I don't know what the ride height drop is compared to stock, or even if they are as good or better than the HR springs. Wonder if it's worth waiting, or just getting the Eibach.

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Old 05-19-2021, 01:33 PM
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Id just lop a coil off the stock springs and call it a day
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:43 PM
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Would the stock springs with a coil cut be any stiffer?
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:47 PM
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Very little on stiffness. Would still feel like 95 percent of a stock, just lower
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:51 PM
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OK - I think that's probably not the direction I want to go. Anyone have insight on the eibach?
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it's difficult to quantify the differences because it can be a 'felt' issue with one's
butt. however, I will try. folks often have competing desires for lowering their
ride and then struggle with comfort, ride ability, handling, clearance etc

I have no experience with HR. I first tried Vogtland and felt the ride was too
harsh so I sold them. I also tried cutting one full coil off and felt that was too
harsh. I ended up with Eibach and they (to me) had a good balance between
firmness vs comfort and handling.

I paired the Eibach's first with Koni yellow body (3-settings) shocks but the
firmest setting was too soft to control the body rolling when pushed into fast
sweepers (e.g. freeway off ramp).

I settled for the Bilstein HD, then Sport for my w210 RWD, both of which shared
the same dampening rates but the Sport was an inch shorter. The valving
characteristics were clearly firmer than the Konis and I liked the balance of
the Eibach/Bilstein and stayed with them.

The final result was very little body roll and about 1.5" lower on #2 pads...
while still retaining a firm and acceptable comfort on the freeway. Driven on
poor roads and transiting over railroad crossings, you are reminded you have
firmly dampened shocks as the vibration passes through your car seat, to your
butt, and up your spine (though not painfully so).

When the car is fully loaded with passengers, the added weight of roughly
1000 lbs reveal the limits of a lowered ride. Care must be taken when switching
from level pavement to steep inclines. As such, I rarely load up with more
than 3 and will reach for the keys of a different family car. The 210 is my
guilty pleasure ride and my only auto transmission vehicle.

anyway, anecdotal from one owner
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Old 05-23-2021, 05:53 AM
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Hi - I ordered some HR springs from someone who said they had a set left in stock, now it looks like that isn't the case. The only other set of springs I can find are the eibach pro springs, I don't know what the ride height drop is compared to stock, or even if they are as good or better than the HR springs. Wonder if it's worth waiting, or just getting the Eibach.
Not sure which car you have. I have a W124 and many say that the best spring "update" - probably for lowering - is the MB Sportline springs, with the appropriate dampers. The springs set me back about 120 each so not cheap. The Sachs Sportline dampers were very reasonable at just over 300 for all 4.

All well for the moment after a very pleasant, 450 km drive to Paris yesterday.

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Old 05-24-2021, 09:47 AM
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Very little on stiffness. Would still feel like 95 percent of a stock, just lower
You got that backwards there big shoots. Stiffness increases as the number of coils decreases because physics. Take a 100lb/in spring with 10 coils, lop off one coil, now you have a 111lb/in spring. Take off another coil and you have 124.875lb/in spring.
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You got that backwards there big shoots. Stiffness increases as the number of coils decreases because physics. Take a 100lb/in spring with 10 coils, lop off one coil, now you have a 111lb/in spring. Take off another coil and you have 124.875lb/in spring.
Lol ok He asked if the springs were stiffer and I said not really. Dont need a physics degree for that
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Old 05-25-2021, 09:56 AM
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Lol ok He asked if the springs were stiffer and I said not really. Dont need a physics degree for that
Except they are stiffed.

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