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Old 05-14-2003, 01:38 AM
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does no one know of this class action lawsuit?

i find it startling that no one who visits this site can or will comment?

are there no victims here?

are there no visitors knowledgeable of the daimler-chrysler con?

or is it that you folks think it was a good idea to have a sensor-oriented notice for lube oil changes rather than a strict mileage based schedule?

personally, i prefer changing oil and filter every 3,500 miles.

and i have the engines to prove that i have it right.

any disputes?

all ears.
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Old 05-14-2003, 02:04 AM
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Hear, hear...

I go for a fully synthetic oil change, filter (both oil & air) and plugs every 10,000km.

Sensors DO fail so you can't be too careful...
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Old 05-14-2003, 02:09 AM
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I thought when you settle, neither party admits fault. Most settlements are economic decisions based on a cost-benefit analysis.
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Old 05-14-2003, 09:32 AM
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Re: M-B ADMITS GUILT: settles

Originally posted by albert champion
does no one know of this class action lawsuit?

i find it startling that no one who visits this site can or will comment?
Did you do a search? I found 77 threads with some content dealing with the US lawsuit. Are there "victims" here? Yes. Again, talked about when the suit was first settled.

The consensus was mostly that no one should follow the FSS schedule for oil/filter changes, especially if using dino-oil. There is some feeling that the settlement is a cop-out, and may mean nothing.
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Old 05-14-2003, 10:09 AM
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The only VICTIMS are those who were careless enough that they were willing to run a very expensive new car over 10,000 miles on dino oil. They really did it to themselves.

I wouldn't exactly call ANYONE a victim since we now have 150,000 mile engine warranties because of this.

I recieved my notice and 150K warranty in the mail several months back.

Have a great day,
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Old 05-14-2003, 10:29 AM
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Wouldn't be too tough on individuals that followed the FSS schedule on dino oil, Larry...not everyone is as vigilant with motor vehicles fluid changes as we are on this forum.

If my wife was told that the FSS light would tell her when to come in for service, I wouldn't expect her do otherwise.

How many of us go in for regular dental and medical checkups as often as prescribed? I'm lousy at personal maintenance, but my wife is keen on what medical abberations require instant attention.

I got my notice in the mail too. But it would be difficult to cash in on the 150K warranty.

My ML was on the synthetic program since we took possession when new, so it's probably a non-issue.

But the symptoms of the extended oil changes with dino oil resulted in oil "coking" on the piston rings. This is probably the ONLY engine ailment that they will honor under the settlement.

Just try to get your harmonic balancer fixed for free after the new car warranty expires...
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Old 05-14-2003, 12:52 PM
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My thought my '98 ML320 was covered by this, but I haven't received squat.
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