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Old 05-16-2003, 08:48 AM
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Exclamation New Chrysler sport coupe sharing parts with CLK!

39% to be exact. Are MB's going down in quality or Chrysler going up?
It is going to be very hard to spend high $$ for a MB knowing this fact.
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Old 05-16-2003, 10:00 AM
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It'll be a Mercedes power train in a Chrysler package. I believe it's priced in the 40 Gs. The pictures I saw show it is styled with the "folded paper" design, with lots of sharp lines... not suited for my taste.
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Old 05-16-2003, 10:59 AM
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A friend of mine asked me, what I would do, if I won a Chrysler product in a contest.
My answer: " I would decline ".
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Old 05-16-2003, 01:58 PM
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If I won a Chrysler product, I'd go pick it up with a flatbed truck -- so I could bring it home without putting any miles on it. Then I'd park it at the end of my driveway with a "For Sale" sign in the window.

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Old 05-16-2003, 02:35 PM
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How much longer before Chrysler and Mercedes-Benz are essentially one-in-the-same?

Cost of mfg. goes down as parts cross-sharing goes up.

Just a matter of time.
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Old 05-16-2003, 11:49 PM
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Does this mean that...

in the future, we could go to a Chrysler dealership and buy some parts for a MB...or to call Phil at PartsShop and buy some Chrysler parts?.
Is this is the begining of the end for MB?
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Old 05-17-2003, 12:27 AM
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Well since I own a Chrysler I will key in on this topic. I have a couple of storys, but to really know about Chryslers read this post. I personally think Chryslers are junk! I have a 1995 Chrysler Concorde 4dr with only 92K, very well maintained miles and it has several problems. Sure, it is probably better than a Kia, or Yugo, but for a $26,000 luxury car, I expect better reliability. I am happy to report that it has never left me stranded, but I rarely drive the car, as I have two other cars. I have probably only put about 3K miles on it, within the year I have owned it. I can say that for ride quality and luxury- they can easily compare with a Mercedes. I have this cars original window sticker and the sticker price was $25,995. I never liked Chryslers, but I originally bought the car to resell, as I got a really good deal on it. I got it well below trade-in. I only paid $1300 for it, but when I bought it, it needed the transmission rebuilt- yes- at only 90K at the time. I had to pay $850 for a professional rebuild. It still shifts oddly, but I was told this is normal for Chryslers. Build quality is fairly good however. The dash is made of high quality materials and the dash top is thickly padded. I do think that the center of the door panels are rather cheap made. I do like all of the features it has such as all power options, overhead console w/electronic compass and outside temperature, keyless entry, factory alarm, auto A/C, leather interior, power antenna, auto dimming mirrors, heated outside mirrors, traction control, dual airbags, and 4-wheel disc brakes w/anti-lock. The sheetmetal also seems to be very solid and not flimsey. Overall a good car and worth what I paid. Another negative is low resell. The car sold for $25,995 in 1995. In 1997 it was sold at a local new car dealership for $17,995 (according to paperwork in car). Then in 2002- I paid $1300. I have ALL and MANY of the service records with the car. Needless to say- it had several trips to the dealer for problems. I would not buy another Chrysler. I often see late model Chryslers and Dodges burning oil. My grandparents had a 1988 New Yorker. Anything that could break on the car broke. Engine, transmission, radiator, starter, water pump, etc, etc. Even with low, easy driven miles, with 2000 mile oil changes. I think they spent $10K+ on repairs on that car since 1990. Last summer they finally traded it in on a 1997 Buick LeSabre and has not had one problem with that car. In conclusion- I hope that Chryslers improve, rather than Mercedes going down. I can say that Chryslers have improved since the 1980s. I think the quality drastically improved in 1993-1994, when the "cab-forward" design was introduced.
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:22 PM
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I hope no one is surprised...
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:34 PM
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Hmm I brought this same issue up over a year ago and got flamed pretty hard by you guys... I hate to say I told ya so...
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Old 05-18-2003, 07:24 PM
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I thought you guys were talking about this:

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Old 05-18-2003, 08:04 PM
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I don't understand what that is. Clearly a V-6 front wheel drive chassis; but was there really a replicar "kit" for a 129. Woefully ignorant here. Hep me, hep me!
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Old 05-19-2003, 08:15 AM
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SL Replica on Lebaron Chassis
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Old 05-19-2003, 05:08 PM
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Post J.Hidalgo I need your help

Sorry to trample all over this thread, but was fairly certain that it was still connected to you email inbox. I'm doing the Evap Core job and need some pointers. Please check your Private mail

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Old 05-19-2003, 05:54 PM
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