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Old 05-20-2003, 11:09 PM
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Re: No mess way

Originally posted by Greg in Oz
... This is fine but, can anyone tell me how you remove an M103 oil filter without some oil leaking onto my previously clean engine (and the ground below)?
Try this: as the oil is draining, unscrew the filter about 1.5 turns...just enough to break the seal plus a little more. Leave it there until the oil is finished draining from the pan...say 10 minutes. By this time the filter should have drained and you can remove it with very little oil dripping.
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:33 AM
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Use a long punch and hammer and punch a hole in the CENTER of the M103 oil filter top. Do this right after pulling the plug. Then let set for about 10 minutes and screw off the filter. If you don't put the hole in the center, it seems to push the vent hole down against the media and takes a lot longer to drain the filter.

I hate the position of that oil filter.

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Old 05-21-2003, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by mbtjc
Point taken. However....

Plastic drain pan (which also works as receptacle and transportation vessel)=between 5 and 10 bucks.

Topsider=50 bucks.

More of a cost/benefit comparison for me. I think by me spending $50 on a Topsider vs. a cheap plastic drain pan, the point of diminishing return will have been greatly surpassed.

As far as the excess fluids...if you don't put too much in it in the first place, you won't have any excess will ya?

The economic argument is irrefutable. Absolutely right-- the Topsider does cost more. Also, if you have an enclosed drain pan, then, yes, that also negates the "convenience of transporting" argument, too.

On the other fluids question, there are at least 2 common scenarios when you want to drain off excess fluid, but not due to overfilling:

1. Removing some brake fluid from its reservoir before you push the piston into the caliper when replacing brake pads;

2. Removing PS fluid from reservoir so you can get to the filter at the bottom, and also create much less of a mess when you disconnect PS hoses.
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Old 05-21-2003, 10:49 AM
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Old 05-21-2003, 01:45 PM
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Nice job displaying the merits of the Topsider oil drain method, or any other similar method. If someone had a slightly caved in oil pan like yours there would be even more oil left in the pan using the drain plug! Always knock out the dents with a hammer from the inside over a large block of wood. I have been a long time user of the "Topsider" and I am convinced that it is the best way to remove oil.
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Old 05-21-2003, 03:46 PM
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I agree with you about changeing the oil often and being able to check things out while under the car while doing the oil change. I have found that the inspection time is very helpful in finding problems and potential problems if left undedected until too late to fix. I have been crawling under cars to fix them most of my life. Got that from my dad who was a mechanic for over 47 years.

I never heard of removing the oil from the top until I joined this site. I was intrigued by the Topsider discussions and decided to buy one since I bought my wife a '97 W140 with the oil filter above unlike all the other cars that I have serviced over the years. Yes, first time MB owner and never even worked on one before. I got to say that the W140 is a sweet car to drive. I can't wait to get one for myself.

Well, I used the Topsider on my Accord before I removed the pan to change the gasket and I was suprised to see how much oil it took out. I still needed the standard oil drain device to catch the oil from the filter. Bottom line is the Topsider worked well and I can see the convenience of it. I will be using it on the MB but not the RB. I will still be crawling under the MB every chance I get to check things out. Better to have preventative maintanance than to have extreme expenses when it could have been prevented.

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Old 05-21-2003, 06:06 PM
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This may sound barbaric, but if my oil pan had a lip around the drain plug like that, I'd bang it out with a hammer and block of wood, and continue draining through the plug. But that's just me.

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