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Old 02-20-2000, 04:33 PM
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Rich,
I'm not sure why you need the 500E assemblies if you mean by 'driving lights' what I call 'daytime running lights'. All Euro headlight assemblies are clear glass across the headlamps and fogs. Consequently, I use the fog section as daytime running lights - standard practice here in Canada, but a major annoyance to some drivers in the US (which you'll soon find out).
The fogs use a 55W H3 bulb which is plenty bright enough. However, I suggest installing the bulb-type with a slight yellowish hue. The yellow is only barely noticeable, but enough to prevent oncoming traffic from confusing the extra set of lights with high-beams.
If this is what you intended, the assemblies I referenced will do it. Or did I miss something, and you have another purpose in mind?

Barrie


In relpy to:

Barrie
One more quick question. Do you know the part numbers for the 500E lamp assemblies? This would give me the driving lamps rather than the fog lamps. I have a 98 300E.

Thanks again,
Rich



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Old 02-20-2000, 07:50 PM
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barrie,
i live in chicago but am willing to buy from canada for the lights...bekkers is way too expensive...i would greatly appreciate it if you could email me the address/contact/sebsite of any vendors seeling the euro-look headlights for my 89 300e...thanks

ben
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Old 02-21-2000, 07:19 AM
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Either in brine conditions or in drizzling conditions where it hasn't rained hard enough to wash off the roads, the headlights can get filthy. The headlight cleaners do help.

I would ask for the contact for the 300E Euro lights, but the poor fellow has worn out his keyboard, sending it out to everyone, I'm embarrassed to ask.

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Old 02-21-2000, 10:31 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by barrie:
[B]Rich,
I'm not sure why you need the 500E assemblies if you mean by 'driving lights' what I call 'daytime running lights'.

Barrie,
The 500E has driving lights where the fog lights are and the fog lights are relocated under the bumper at each end of the intake grill. I believe the reflectors and lens are different than the rest of the W124s.

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Old 02-21-2000, 05:34 PM
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Larry,
No sweat - it's an MB keyboard!
Everyone has their info and yours is in the mail.
To all of you: would appreciate your feedback your feedback on the service, pricing, etc. you received; what you decided to do re. conversion and wipers; and in the end, how you like the Euro lights?

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Barrie

Mod: With this kind of demand, Why doesn't PartsShop carry them??
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Old 02-21-2000, 05:51 PM
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Rich,
The physical arrangements are very different. My point is that you need to decide how you want to use your lights, and whether you can get double-duty out of the fog section.
In my situation, the fog section is used continuously as a daytime driving light, and maybe once a year as a fog light. In any event, it does both jobs very well.
If you install the 500E components you'll need to do your homework on the physical fit and electrical conversion.
Let me know what you decide.
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Old 02-21-2000, 06:14 PM
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Barrie:
I called LuxEuro week before last, and the woman I talked to was going to call me back last week about shipping, currency conversion, and any need for different electrical connectors for my car. Didn't hear anything so I contacted PartsShop on the feedback section about the demand - they are going to look into it. Personally, I would like to buy everything at the spot where I get the most MB support. Thanks for all your help and info.

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Old 02-22-2000, 08:15 PM
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I like my Euro lights, but I still don't know what wipers to use! Anybody have any experience? I would hate to buy something and then they not work.
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Old 02-22-2000, 09:22 PM
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You have several options (all of which will work):
1) Buy the Euro motors, arms and blades for several hundred dollars. I can give you the part nos. if you really want to go this route.
2) Use your current motors/arms by making a bracket as described in my post above.
3) Use the USA motor, but replace the arms and blades with the Euro versions. I haven't tried this yet, but it's the route that I'm considering.
All of these options will require a relocation of the hole in the lower trim plate.
Of course, there are many who live without the wipers altogether.
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Old 02-23-2000, 01:12 AM
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Won't those motor/wiper from last W124s fit?? I thought they have Euro-Type headlights(one piece)??? Just wondering...

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Old 02-23-2000, 03:34 PM
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Andy,

The wiper motor/arms should work fine, but the motor mounting on the Euro light assembly may not be the same as on the USA version. If that's the case, you'll need to fabricate a bracket.
It's even possible that in the later models MB used the same motors on both the Euro and US versions (ingenious!). I'm sure Benzmac can provide this info re compatibilty/interchangeability.

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Old 02-24-2000, 04:50 AM
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Hey Barrie, if you could have your MB keyboard send out information on those euro headlights it would be greatly appreciated. I just replaced my headlight doors and already regretting it after hearing of your successfull conversion.
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Old 02-24-2000, 11:47 PM
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Barrie, please copy me as well next time you send out the info...thanks syd
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Old 02-28-2000, 09:44 PM
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Hi Barry, read your post. could you also email me the sources for euro lights? are they a direct swap? Anyway thanks, email
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Hi Nick,
The Euro lights are significantly less expensive than the NA version (at least here in Canada). This is even more surprising given their superior reflectors, construction and glass cover (instead of the crappy plastic lens over the fogs that crack with the first stone). You'll love them!

I'll e-mail you the info re Cdn sources and prices.
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Old 02-29-2000, 09:06 AM
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Webmaster,

Is there some sort of Brownie Point award you can give Barrie for all the responses he has sent out because of this one post. Maybe the "Most Helpful Non MercedesShop Moderator" Award.

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