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Old 06-21-2003, 09:54 AM
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jerking/misfire-190e

the car is a 190e- which has done 115,000 miles.

today i noticed a jerking/misfire while accelerating .

so far i had a new rotor ,distributor cap and spark plugs.

the fuel pump is a bit noisy.

any more ideas on what i should check/replace?

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Old 06-21-2003, 11:05 AM
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I think you just answered your own question, but I could be wrong. If the fuel pump is noisy, you should think about replacing it first. Low fuel pressure can cause a lot of strange problems.

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Old 06-23-2003, 11:29 PM
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I think you need a new set of sparkplug cable.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:24 AM
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A failing fuel pump certainly caused a miss on acceleration in my 190E. You might want to check the fuel filter first. You should change this anyway if you change the pump.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:02 PM
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thanks for the input.

the filter was changed about 10,000 miles ago.


would a failing fuel pump cause an intermittent, unpredictable misfire?.

will also look to replace spark plug leads soon as these are the original ones are far as i am aware.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:33 PM
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What kind of plugs?

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Old 06-25-2003, 07:13 AM
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In my case, at idle, the engine was also intermittently misfiring, in addition to misfiring/jerking on accel.

New spark plug leads solved my issues.

If your car doesn't misfire at idle, it would seem more like a fuelling problem.

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Old 06-25-2003, 07:22 AM
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Definitely do the spark plug leads IMO, i'll bet my 999th post (this is it) that will solve your problems.
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:22 AM
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thanks for the further input and ideas.

this is why i like this forum-your feedback is very useful.

haasman,

the spark plugs are of the BERU brand -14k-7duo (which is the equivalent of bosch-h7dco).

azhari,

no misfire at idle-hence the fuel pump is a possibility as it is noisy on an intermittent basis.alos the jerking is intermittent-none of it recently-


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Old 06-26-2003, 11:43 AM
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I'll go with those above who recommend spark plug wires. I had a similar misfire/jerking at low rpm's and idle and a new set of wires cleared it up. In my case, watching the engine around the spark plugs at night allowed me to see the occassional crossfire.

good luck.

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Old 06-26-2003, 12:27 PM
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i have done the darkness test to check the plug leads for arcing-could not confirm any sign of arcing.

but i am planning to change the leads as they are 115k miles old.

also planning to change the electric fuel pump,which is noisy at times and is also 115k miles old.
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Old 06-26-2003, 05:09 PM
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i finally changed the spark plug wires(leads) today.

so will check if jerking on acceleration stops.

hope this cures it.

if not, then the electric fuel pump will be next
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:23 PM
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good call. keep us posted.

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Old 06-26-2003, 09:49 PM
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My '91 190e 2.3 was doing the exact same thing. I replaced all the ignition components except the coil (because of cost $114)and that didn't help, then I finally replaced the coil last Sunday and it went away. It was sputtering and skipping pretty bad off the line and at idle before that, now there's no more.
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Old 06-29-2003, 12:31 PM
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positive feedback-

after changing the spark plug wires the jerking(hesitation) on acceleration has stopped.

i am also having the bosch fuel pump changed as it is excessively noisy at times.

thanks for the useful advice .

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