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Old 02-17-2007, 12:06 AM
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If thats what I have in my ML320 then I can tell you..flawless performance for 130,000 miles on origional fluid. The 99 ML320 performed perfect in our January Blizzard here in Michigan.

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CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:26 AM
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Status is something that can't be achieved driving a car, many drug dealers drive around in MB, Lexux etc. would that deter me from buying those cars, never, but I would'nt be buying it to achieve status for sure. I will buy a car for what it stands for, if it fits my principles, I will buy it if its within my reach.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:29 AM
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a Benz will ALWAYS require more care and money cause the creation of each model may be advance in technology but CERTAINLY one of the worst quality.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:01 AM
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over all over kill.

worst quality ?
I would not go that far. Maybe in electronic's.
In the few previous decades, the 70's 80's and 90's when the Japan cars were often called Jap Crap, and the FORDS Fix Or Repair Daily's
The Mercedes were not rusted out in Michigan like My Ford tarus, my accord and my Legend. ( After 8 years for Honda 3 for the Ford ) Here in the 21th Century the sheet medal is still thicker on a Mercedes than nearly all the rest.

So anyone want to buy Chysler ? Hear the Germans are giving up on it.
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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If thats what I have in my ML320 then I can tell you..flawless performance for 130,000 miles on origional fluid. The 99 ML320 performed perfect in our January Blizzard here in Michigan.
Flawless? You sound like me a few month ago... Looking at your sig and posts you have had issues with your MB....

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Old 02-17-2007, 07:53 PM
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a Benz will ALWAYS require more care and money cause the creation of each model may be advance in technology but CERTAINLY one of the worst quality.
I wouldn't call it "care"... its more "trouble" / "fix" / "repair"... i was under the MB drug for the time I had them (went through two), and then realized, B.S. They are a p.o.s. unless you buy new and the "issues" are curved a little, but not eliminated...

I haven't had a headache with mines for ???... wait, i sold it that's why, LOL.. I love them though and as I said before, unless you can buy NEW, you are (as I was) a "wanna be"... MB's should be disposable...once out of warranty dump them...
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:56 PM
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worst quality ?
I would not go that far. Maybe in electronic's.
In the few previous decades, the 70's 80's and 90's when the Japan cars were often called Jap Crap, and the FORDS Fix Or Repair Daily's
The Mercedes were not rusted out in Michigan like My Ford tarus, my accord and my Legend. ( After 8 years for Honda 3 for the Ford ) Here in the 21th Century the sheet medal is still thicker on a Mercedes than nearly all the rest.

So anyone want to buy Chysler ? Hear the Germans are giving up on it.

Sorry, but in the 80s and 90s Japan cars were not jap crap.. Do you have documentation of this statement? Even JD Edwards and the Books/magazines I have from that era praised the japanese cars...


Please post link where you find this fact. I would be interested to read it.. I thought "jap" cars from the 80's and 90's were the ones still running with little repair and maintainance...
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:20 PM
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Read It Correctly

I said they were "often called Jap Crap". I bought what others called Jap Crap.
I rode my Honda by many a broke down Harley.

And....No I dont have issues of JD Powers from the 70's to back up why many used the term "Jap Crap".

I have a Honda ST1100, Civic, SnowBlower, Outboard and Lawnmower.
Oh, and a Honda XL250 made in 1973.

also YASSHI you quoted me out of context about me calling Mercedes Flawless. Not even Close to what I said. I said My Mercedes ML320 TRANSMISSION has been flawless in 130,000 miles on original fluid.
My words are being all twisted up YASSHI, you are a guy arent you ?
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what i did myself.
CPS
rear shocks
MAS x 3.
SparkPlugs (twice)
Fuel pump & Filter
Window switch
replaced both failed horns with Honda horns.
Cleaned ERG Tube
Oil changes
Oil consumption Fix
Brake Pads
A/C Recharge
Anti-Freeze change X 2.
Front Shocks. Monroe. $90
Mercedes Warrenty Work:
Harmonic balancer,power steering clamp. Cat converters.
Drive Shaft Bearing.s
Replaced Outer Lower Tie Rods and front lower ball joints at 156,000 miles

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Old 02-17-2007, 08:36 PM
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most probably the MB cars last longer or stays longer on the road since they change models every 8 to ten years. Plus their service life is longer, indeed there were a lot of factory engineering flaws. Which i can definitely atest to it.
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:05 AM
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Is Mercedes too troublesome ?

To this statement, with what has been going on with my car recently.... I can easily say, "yes". But it has nearly 270K, so I doubt any other car would be without some issues at this mileage....

Its just not knowing whats wrong that makes it so bad.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:08 PM
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Guys,
after doing DIY troubleshooting on my benzes pretty much every weekend and reading posts and posts of trouble, I was just thinking today, my corolla has more miles on it that the 124 at the moment and never did it leave me stranded on the road, require a jump, snap a fuse or had me go to the dealer besides the 60K mile service. same can be said about a honda that my friend owned that had more than 300K before he sold it for good price. And it made me wonder. when we opted to buy a mercedes, did we buy quality/reliability or a three point star with contiunous problems and DIYs under the hood ?
I think it would still depend on the model and how you take care of Mercedes. Mine doesn't give much trouble, just the usual ones experienced by any vehicle owner. Also I could easily get Mercedes 300 D parts for replacements and other accesories at a quite reasonable price...
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:23 PM
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80s toyota still around, just look at all those AE86s kicking around doing it sideways....

80s Mercedes I guess the G wagons are still tough enough. Other models have all crapped out. Mercedes commercial says their cars are faithful to the driver....

yeah like how ex-girlfriends were faithful to you. Once it has done squeezing out every penny off you she'll just dump you on the side of the road. The question is when will she suddenly feel like doing that.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:42 PM
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Only the W123 diesels and the old diesel G Wagen come close to the Toyota and Honda reliability that you are getting, the term Jap-crap, rice burners etc. are more to do with prejudice and racism than with any substance, as a dedicated Japanese motorcycle rider, I can well relate to that, never would the guys on Harleys give us thumbs up, one Harley rider tried racing me from stop light to stop light, I was on a brand new not broken in Yamaha FZR, point is I was just going through the gears when this dude on a Harley with his woman in the back thought I was racing him, needless to say, every stoplight he got blown to pieces, unfair to go up against a full blown race bike with turn signals strapped on against a cruiser not meant to rev high, he was furious and we almost came to blows when he got down from his ride and started screaming obscenities, thats a typical Harley rider for you, maybe there are some good ones with nice attitude, I am yet to find one.
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:50 AM
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89 300ce is the most problematic car I have owed...love the look but its an over engineered pos
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:24 AM
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After reading most of these posts there appears to be one of the most important issues really NOT discussed, though it was mentioned by Benzwood briefly.....SAFETY!!! My first was a '92 190E, and my present one is a '94 S500. Sure, it may be alittle expensive to maintain, but when it comes to my wife and 7 year old son, who cares? I was always under the impression that a Volvo was touted as being the safest car on the road today...BS!! I speak from experience, because I lost my 190E after being rearended by a late model Volvo, which was totaled!! Sure, the insurance company totaled my 190 too, but only because, they said, it would have cost more to fix than what the car was worth. My point being, if I would have been in a 'lesser' car (Toyota, Nissan, etc) made of plastic and tin foil.....well, I'll leave the rest to your imagination!! That brings me to the 'tank' I now drive. She's big, heavy, and powerful and I WILL NOT trust the safety of my family to a car that can blown off the road in a 10 MPH crosswind!!!

Granted, the above is just my opinion, and I'm sure there will be some that disagree, but in this household, there will nothing but Mercedes in the garage. They won't be new ones, but they will be Mercedes!!

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