EGR Block plate for 97 E300D - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

a2aa · #31 12-05-2003, 10:14 AM

What did you cover the exhaust manifold end of the project??? and what type of tape did you seal the filter to the metal hose???

I'm doing this this weekend---

Hoping that my "used" oil will be less "tarrish" in color when I replace it....you think??

a2

97E300D · #32 12-05-2003, 10:38 AM

I used just standard electrical tape but I would like to use a different method sice I suspect Tape may eventually degrade with the heat that is present in the Engine Bay. I'm sure a trip to home depot could give me an idea or two. I used a piece of sheet metal cut in a small circle and use the orginal clamp to hold it in place. No blow by. I would recommend trying a copper pipe cap used in plumbing to fit over the manafold flang and just tap it in place and crimp it over the flang. There are many methods to blocking off the exaust flang I just put the sheet metal in place.

michakaveli · #33 12-13-2003, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by 97E300D
The Mod works Fantasic............. I only wish I had done it sooner. It is such a simple fix

I looked at your website. Nice rims where did you get them, E420's ?
I'm in the process of getting a second set of the stocks so I can run a full set of Snow tires. Right now I only have them on the rears but the slight tire size diff seems to throw off my Cruise Control (wheel speed sensors).

Thanx for the complements.... The rims are replica AMG monoblocks, found on the E55. They are 18x8 all around with a set of Continental ExtermeContact all-seasons that seem to be working out a lot better than I thought in these wintery conditions. I bought them from www.Bekkers.Com.

I will be having my emmisions testing coming up soon, within a month. I will wait till I get that done, just as a precaution.

michakaveli · #34 12-13-2003, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by a2aa
What did you cover the exhaust manifold end of the project??? and what type of tape did you seal the filter to the metal hose???

I'm doing this this weekend---

Hoping that my "used" oil will be less "tarrish" in color when I replace it....you think??

a2

How did things come out? Any pix?

michakaveli · #35 01-25-2004, 02:23 AM

Performed the mod tonight....

a2aa · #36 05-31-2004, 10:25 PM

I've having BAD surging issues wqith my w210 D nonT. First, I cleaned the cross over tube and scrubbed the hell out of the flaps.Surging didn't stop. I was 1 p***** off shade tree-er.

Well, it was 1:00 pm and the ambient temp was not that hot @ 97 degrees so I went ahead and did the mod. Bought the breather filter in your previous pic but instead of using electrical tape, I superglued the connection. I don't want to run the risk of it popping off if the tape losses it's grip due to high temp.

NO SURGING !!!!! NOT @ 45,55,or 60!!! Phenominal smoothness.

Took a while but well worth it. I appreciate the info 97E300D

#37 07-30-2004, 11:22 AM

Are you guys still pleased with the mod using the filter?

Had my E300D four months and considering the same.

TIA

97E300D · #38 07-30-2004, 12:22 PM

Yep...I cleaned out my manifold with a product called Chem Tool B12. Best stuff out there at Autozone. Went through all the flaps the egr valve and cleaned off the sensor in the rubber hose. Reinstalled everthing and she runs great no more surging... ever. I believe the violent surgging problem ruined my trans, I was luckly my extend warrenty covered the coastly repair. I would not dirve a car for a long time with the surging problem since it can put a lot of stress on the trans and wear out the clutch disks.

I had intended to run the egr fresh air hose back to the airbox. I even had it set up once, worked fine, but figured why put a hole in the air box when it works fine with the small filter.

Again I wish a 98-99 Turbo user would attempt the mod, and post the results......

#39 07-30-2004, 12:43 PM

Thanks for the quick response.

My surging is minimum at highway speeds for 10 seconds about every 3 weeks.

I need to clean the intake. Have you seen directions on this process?

Is it just removing the intake manifold after removing the hoses etc?

Mechanical engr here so not a problem with a DIY. but some printed direction in detail would be great.

97E300D · #40 07-30-2004, 12:52 PM

Shoot me your your email address (IM or just post it) and I'll send you an ofto.com album link. I took alot of pictures of the process intending to make up an FAQ. I assume the picture should give you an good Idea.

It's a very simple process of a few 10mm bolts, allen screws, and the hose clamps.

#41 07-30-2004, 12:55 PM

97E300D you have a PM. Thanks, Bob

97E300D · #42 07-30-2004, 01:07 PM

Oh what the heck maybe others can use the pictures:

Link url: www.ofoto.com
username: diesele300d@yahoo.com
password: 97E300D (note the CAPS).

I would love to create the DIY FAQ for this mod.

I also took some photos of the technique to clean out the Climate Control Fan if you ever feel it is not sensing the correct inside tempature or it makes noise.......

Harvey Gaspar · #43 07-30-2004, 11:11 PM

Did it but made some changes. Turned the pipe around so as to place the filter higher up and away from the exhaust heat. Also realized the the heat is going to melt your tape adhesive sooner rather than later. Solution: the crimp clamps used on the pipe fittings. Get a third one (will do in the am since MB dealer is open till noon on Saturday). You will find that your breather filter when placed into the pipe flange, will be held snugly in place with one of those clamps. Problem solved. Also I used some of the red liquid gasket under the seal on the exhaust. Crimped it down moderately so as not to have as much metal to metal as possible, and will wait until tomorrow pm to crank it up. If I can't get the clamp will jury rig the filter until I can get one. Thanks again for doing the ground work on this one. Since the egr is closed during most of the driving, I don't think the computer is going to miss the charcol air much. It is absolutely assinine that the epa ever required the egr on the diesel cars, as it is a prescription for early death. Fortunately the older models plugged up without detection and that's what probably allowed the cars to avoid emphysema in their old age. I did not take off the intake and clean the other valves and hope that the continuous clean air will allow me a long time before I have to do so. Thanks again, Harvey

michakaveli · #44 07-31-2004, 02:14 AM

There is absolutely no need for any adhesives or other gizmos.

All that is required is 3/4" heater hose, cut to a length that will slide and fit into the EGR tube to a point that it will no longer go in, on the other end using a clamp attach the breather filter and viola. DONE!

I've been running this setup for the past year with not a single problem. Hope this helped

97E300D · #45 07-31-2004, 06:41 AM

Yeah thats what I figured. Nice modification. These are the old pictures. I now just attach the filter right to the end of the EGR, no hose at all. We should create a nice How-To for others. I wanted to route the hose like you use, just right back to the bottom of the air box. In fact I had it all set, just stopped short of making a hole. Since my current method is still working I fiqure why fix what is not broken. I do agree the heater hose is the best an easiest solution. I just do what this car loves to do.... cruise for 2 hours a day at 80MPH +.

Again please someone with a turbo please.. try the mod !