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Shoebox 11-03-2003 09:40 AM

c280 engine stalls HELP
 
My wife's car stalls when the vehicle is rolling to a stop. This happens intermittently. At first, you could put the car in park and restart the car. Now, sometimes when the car is parked. It will not start. It'll turnover but nothing happens. After 10 minutes of doing nothing... it starts. I took it to my mechanic. He checked out the usually suspect’s ovp, smog hoses, etc. And he said it's difficult to track down the problem because there are no trouble codes. He’s stumped. And he really doesn’t want to start changing parts at random. Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much

joe p 11-03-2003 09:50 AM

Do a double take on the OVP, if it was made is Austria, change it.



Joe

Shoebox 11-03-2003 10:20 AM

If the ovp is bad, doesn't everything get brighter?

David C Klasse 11-04-2003 03:08 AM

Trust us, it's the OVP (Overvolt Protection Relay). THe originals were manufactured in Austria I believe, and the contacts tend to corrode .. it's an easy swap, and you can get if for $60-ish dollars here on Mercedesshop. Just make sure you get the upgrade part!! PN goes from 45 to 67.

Good luck

Shoebox 11-04-2003 09:50 AM

Well, it's not the ovp. The contacts shows no sign of corrosion and it's made in Portugal.

Anybody with any experience with this problem?

Thanks

blackmercedes 11-04-2003 10:56 AM

Might want to change out the OVP anyway. And check the fuel pump relay, as that's another common cause for M104 hiccups. Your symptoms are a little different, but...

Coils also go bad on the M104's, but again the symptoms are a little off, but...

The car has a fresh fuel filter and plugs, right?

Shoebox 11-04-2003 11:41 AM

Yes

suginami 11-04-2003 11:52 AM

Just change the OVP. The original ones are bad, even if it "looks good" to you. I don't believe the replacement OVP's are made in Portugal, either.

Shoebox 11-04-2003 03:12 PM

I will check out the part number tonight and verify if it's the

Old # 000 540-52-45 Austria

New- 000 540-67-45

I'm not a big fan of swapping parts until I can verify the source of the problem.

And I think I looked at the wrong part this morning.

Thanks for all you help.

spriro 11-04-2003 05:16 PM

Where is the OVP location for C280?

Does anyone have the digital picture?

Gilly 11-04-2003 05:38 PM

OVP, 98 C280, 'scuse me?

Sounds like the fuel filter to me.

Gilly

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blackmercedes 11-04-2003 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gilly
OVP, 98 C280, 'scuse me?

Sounds like the fuel filter to me.

Gilly

98? For some reason I've been going along with the 1995MY in my head. Re-read the thread, and no model year, and then, on the profile, presto. Dan the man...

And by now you'd think that we'd be asking "year and mileage please" without a second thought.

Gilly 11-04-2003 05:45 PM

That's why they pay me the big bucks, John;)

Gilly

Gilly 11-04-2003 07:17 PM

OK, more food for thought:

OK, I'm not sure on the C Class about the fuel filter. My original train of thought was that on this, the fuel filter has the pressure regulator integrated into it, not 100% sure this is true or not.
***addendum: I see the filter was replaced (on above thread)--DID THE PROBLEM START when the filter was replaced????***

There is a component on the car which in a way substitutes what the OVP does. It's in the control module box, it's called the fuse and relay module (K40 I believe is it's identifier). It may cause this, it has the fuel pump relay in it, etc, helps distribute power to various control modules.

What probably should be done is a quick scan for trouble codes, and if nothing there the best next step would probably be to drive the car with a fuel pressure gauge installed and monitor fuel pressure when the car stalls.

Another possiblity (because stalling is rather rare on the M112 engine) is maybe the throttle motor (actuator).

Gilly

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