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Old 12-10-2005, 04:34 PM
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Honda oil filters made by FRAM

I have a 2003 Honda CR-V where I use to take it to the Honda dealer every 5,000 miles for an oil change. I discovered that Honda oil filters are made in Canada by FRAM. Since then I take my vehicle to a Valvoline Instant Oil Change location where their oil filters are made by Purolator.

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Old 12-10-2005, 07:15 PM
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Funny, I would never put a WIX on my car. My family has used Fram for 30 years and never had a single problem. I have extended family and friends who swear by Fram.

This car is the first car I have not used a Fram for. If they made one for it, I might consider it. At least I can still use Castrol GTX 20w-50.
I recently bought a Wix oil filter for my car, from one of the big-name parts chains. I bought it because inside the box, the filter itself was labelled MANN, made in Germany.

Sorry to say, but no Fram filters will ever go in my car.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:41 PM
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I had completely forgot that I started this thread. Anyways, The Fram filters that I use to buy were junk, compared to a WIX or Purolator. These other 2 brands were substantially (sp) heavier. As I probably mentioned before, the Fram that I cut open had a piece of aluminum as a spring inside. Whereas the WIX had an actual coil spring and there were twice as many holes inside to let oil flow.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:43 PM
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yeah

i bet ferraris had frams from the factory. and back then they were good (presumably).

i have often looked for frams for my mb thinking that they were good. i always liked the look of the orange filters. prob from seeing them on ferraris. i have never found a fram for mb.

sooooo how 'bout stp? they any good? i have one on my 350sdl right now.

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You probably wont find a Fram for an MB. MB's use element filters that go inside of a housing, not a screw-on type.
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:51 PM
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moparmike;
Some do, some don't. My 1990 300E M103 uses spin-on, always has. So do other models.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:44 AM
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I can get a WIX filter @ O'Reilly's Auto Parts for $8.99, STP @ the other chain is $13.99 and I always thought STP was their cheap brand. To be fair, I wonder who really makes this stuff, perhaps they all come from the same factory, just different packaging. I do like WIX though, they used to make NAPA Gold high-line store brand products, maybe still do.
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Old 12-11-2005, 05:29 AM
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moparmike;
Some do, some don't. My 1990 300E M103 uses spin-on, always has. So do other models.
I stand corrected. Wouldn't have thought an MB would do that before the accountants took over though...
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Old 12-11-2005, 06:45 AM
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I recently went to Wallmart to purchase a filter for my Ford Truck. At the time all they had in stock for the F-150 was 2 versions of Fram. The first was a normal service garanteed for 3000 miles the second was an extended service gauranteed for 7000 miles. Since my truck came with a recomended service interval of 7500 miles I decided that Fram is a POS. I bought the 7000 mile one anyway because I was there. I also bought a Fram for my 560SL only because I had the oil drained and that is all I could find locally. The problem I found with the SL filter was that it did not come with any of the required canister seals or drian plug seal so I ended up using the old ones over. The next time I will have either a Heingst or MANN in stock.


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Orange Kiss of Death

That's what the Volvo forum calls Fram filters.

I have found Mann or Knect to be the best. I tried Bosch but oil dripped all over when I unscrewed the filter leading me to believe that the filted does not have the anti-drain back valve. Filters without the anti-drainback valve could lead to dry starts and shorter engine life.
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[QUOTE=t walgamuth]i bet ferraris had frams from the factory. and back then they were good (presumably).

i have often looked for frams for my mb thinking that they were good. i always liked the look of the orange filters. prob from seeing them on ferraris. i have never found a fram for mb.

sooooo how 'bout stp? they any good? i have one on my 350sdl right now.

tom w[/QUOTE

Ferrari with a Fram or a FIAMM?
I don't know of any Ferrari that came from the factory with a Fram, I could be wrong, but I think FIAMM is what is being mistaken with Fram.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:24 AM
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fram

the older ferraris with two standing up proud above the front of the motor. fiamm makes filters?

i am thinking that ferrari had a deal with fram for money paid to them if they used fram filters. they had such a deal with goodyear(?) i think on the tires. may have been another brand. i am thinking sixties and perhaps seventies.

i remember reading about some ferrari guys losing races cause the factory had a deal for the tires and were obligated to run such and such a brand cause the old man was getting money to put them on the cars.

i think maybe they also used die hard batterys for a while too. not sure.

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Old 12-11-2005, 11:29 AM
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I have always used Fram filters for our Honda cars but run OEM in all the Benz and the Honda 450R (which gets changed about every 15 hours with Shell Rotella synthetic). The CRV is at 180k miles and I don't see where the Fram filter has caused it any harm but I have not been in the engine yet either.
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I think if you see a Ferrari engine with a White filter, it is a FIAMM. However, I see alot of V-12 Ferrari engines on E-bay with 2 distinctive orange filters sitting upfront of the engine. I just looked through some books I have on Ferrari. They show the building of the mid 80's Testarossa, the 512TR, and the F40. The Testarossa had a Black filter (possibly Mahle), the 512TR had a white filter and F40 had a blue filter.
I just know this, OEM filters are beefier than Frams, so I will stick with what the manufacturer used from the get-go.
When I bought my 911, the oil filter was OEM, it said Porsche on it. However, it also said made in the USA. I replaced that with a Mahle, made in Austria.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:31 PM
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i checked a ferrari

drivers document that was written by james a riff with maintenance tips that appears to be from maybe around 1970. he states that the factory supplied fram filters but sears offered a good filter that worked for less money. and suggested painting the sears filter flat black if you dont want people making fun of you for using off brand products.

the information available for early ferraris is pretty sketchy, back then and now. much of the very simple things just arent available.

for example, head bold torque. not available. back in the fifties all the italian mechanics just trusted their arms. a ferrari 250 head even has head bolts that can't be reached with a torque wrench.

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