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One last try on this problem...sounds like a loose valve but isn't.
I figured I would give this section of the forum a try before I give up on it once and for all. My '85 300 D turbo, CA emissions model, has a sound coming from the engine that sounds exactly like one of the valves are loose. I have checked, adjusted and rechecked the valves and they are all to spec. The "click" is engine speed related and seems to be louder when fully warmed up. Strangely, the sound can be best heard from the drivers seat. I have not been able to distinguish the sound from all the rest of the sounds that from under the hood with and w/o a stethoscope. I have checked for loose, broken or leaking items and everything exteriorly on the engine appear fine. The car otherwise runs good and has as much power as it should. The oil pressure and coolant temperature are both normal. I have run out of things to check and I would like to try fix this problem myself before taking it to a shop. Is there any technical expert out there that can help me?
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What do the timing chain/guides look like? Wonder if you are hearing the "kiss of death" chain noise? If it were mine and I confirmed that the chain/guides were good and it is running like it ought to I would just leave it alone:) and run it. Change oil every 3-5k depending on your preference and rack up them miles.
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When I had the valve cover off to check and adjust the valves, I checked the chain at the same time and it appeared nice and tight. I wasn't really able to check the guides/rails at that time as I couldn't get a good look at them but from what I could see they looked OK. The sound that I have doesn't appear to be coming from the front of the engine as I would expect a bad chain or rails to cause. But I could be wrong as I can't really tell where the noise is coming from with my head under the hood. When in the drivers seat, it sounds like the noise is coming from the driver's side of the engine. When I stick my head under the car, it sounds as if it is coming from the bottom end somewhere. The noise started about 4000-5000 miles ago. I have since gone through a couple of oil changes and I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary in respect to the oil with no visible metal particles before or after the noise started. Is it possible that the tensioner is bad and is there anyway to check and adjust it? How should the rails look and what would be a way to get a good look at them without having to tear the front of the engine down?
~DJ |
I would also check the vacuum pump.
Our old 240D made a bunch of noises similar to what you are describing right before the vac pump disintegrated. Haasman |
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>If< it is your vacuum pump and it is making the noise, it would work up to a point and then quit. How long ...... hmmm days? Hours? |
Maybe it isn't mechanical .... if it sounds the loudest sitting in the driver's seat, check the firewall and see if there is a ripped grommet or seal or simply an opening that is allowing normal engine noise to reach the cabin.
Haasman |
If that's the case, then maybe it isn't the vacuum pump since I've had the noise since last summer for about 5,000 miles or so.
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Get a automotive stethoscope, I find them invaluable in finding wierd noises.
m |
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did you check the diesel injector unit out of curiosity?
m |
Just a thought - could it be piston slap? I had a F#$D with a V6 that had piston slap (just out of warranty of course) - sounded like a tappet tapping - ran it another 60K miles before scrapping it. If it is piston slap - thicker motor oil will make it less noticable.
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no one has questioned the exhaust manifold or the exhaust system.
is the manifold on the right side (pass)? being it is a calif car does it have a heat riser valve in the exhaust? exhaust leaks have a ticking sound not quite like a ball stud but it is engine speed sensitive just my .02$ tks craig |
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